Detecting air rafts
shadow@xxxxxx
(22 Feb 2018 02:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Kurt Feltenberger
(22 Feb 2018 02:48 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Caleuche
(22 Feb 2018 04:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
shadow@xxxxxx
(22 Feb 2018 07:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Tim
(22 Feb 2018 06:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Roger Gammans
(22 Feb 2018 18:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Bruce Johnson
(22 Feb 2018 18:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Rupert Boleyn
(23 Feb 2018 11:48 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
shadow@xxxxxx
(23 Feb 2018 19:13 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Rupert Boleyn (23 Feb 2018 20:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Bruce Johnson
(23 Feb 2018 20:46 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Tim
(24 Feb 2018 01:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Thomas Jones-Low
(24 Feb 2018 01:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts
Jeffrey Schwartz
(24 Feb 2018 00:13 UTC)
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On 24Feb2018 0812, shadow at shadowgard.com (via tml list) wrote: > On 24 Feb 2018 at 0:48, Rupert Boleyn wrote: > >> TL12 CG for an air/raft used 0.3MW power. The HEPlaR thruster used >> about the same (using reactionless thrusters gets more thrust per MW >> but they're massier, which is probably a wash in an air/raft). If >> neither of these technologies suits, ducted fans could be used, but >> they'd make for a slower (and atmospheric only, obviously) craft. > > *HEPlaR*?!?! > > There goes any hope of IR stealth. As well as making it hazardout to > fly near grasslands, woods and flammable construction! Just reporting what the books say. I'm just imagining the sonic signature - plasma at those temperatures and velocities hitting air would be incredibly noisy. I always assumed that TNE vehicles intended solely for atmospheric operations would, if using HEPlaR, would mix the exhaust with air inside an enclosed system, making for something like a turbofan effect with the air being mixed to produce a cooler, slower and heavier exhaust. Designed right that should actually get additional thrust without requiring more propellant mass, seeing as the air doesn't need to be brought along with you. -- Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com> Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief