Detecting air rafts shadow@xxxxxx (22 Feb 2018 02:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Kurt Feltenberger (22 Feb 2018 02:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Caleuche (22 Feb 2018 04:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts shadow@xxxxxx (22 Feb 2018 07:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Bruce Johnson (22 Feb 2018 18:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Rupert Boleyn (23 Feb 2018 11:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts shadow@xxxxxx (23 Feb 2018 19:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Rupert Boleyn (23 Feb 2018 20:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Bruce Johnson (23 Feb 2018 20:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Tim (24 Feb 2018 01:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Thomas Jones-Low (24 Feb 2018 01:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Tim (22 Feb 2018 06:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Roger Gammans (22 Feb 2018 18:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Jeffrey Schwartz (24 Feb 2018 00:13 UTC)

Re: [TML] Detecting air rafts Rupert Boleyn 23 Feb 2018 20:20 UTC

On 24Feb2018 0812, shadow at shadowgard.com (via tml list) wrote:
> On 24 Feb 2018 at 0:48, Rupert Boleyn wrote:
>
>> TL12 CG for an air/raft used 0.3MW power. The HEPlaR thruster used
>> about the same (using reactionless thrusters gets more thrust per MW
>> but they're massier, which is probably a wash in an air/raft). If
>> neither of these technologies suits, ducted fans could be used, but
>> they'd make for a slower (and atmospheric only, obviously) craft.
>
> *HEPlaR*?!?!
>
> There goes any hope of IR stealth. As well as making it hazardout to
> fly near grasslands, woods and flammable construction!

Just reporting what the books say. I'm just imagining the sonic
signature - plasma at those temperatures and velocities hitting air
would be incredibly noisy.

I always assumed that TNE vehicles intended solely for atmospheric
operations would, if using HEPlaR, would mix the exhaust with air inside
an enclosed system, making for something like a turbofan effect with the
air being mixed to produce a cooler, slower and heavier exhaust.
Designed right that should actually get additional thrust without
requiring more propellant mass, seeing as the air doesn't need to be
brought along with you.

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Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>
Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief