Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Rusty Witherspoon
(12 Feb 2018 19:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Tim
(12 Feb 2018 23:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Cian Witherspoon
(13 Feb 2018 00:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Cian Witherspoon (13 Feb 2018 00:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Tim
(13 Feb 2018 00:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Cian Witherspoon
(13 Feb 2018 01:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Phil Pugliese
(13 Feb 2018 00:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Tim
(13 Feb 2018 00:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Phil Pugliese
(13 Feb 2018 07:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Cian Witherspoon
(13 Feb 2018 08:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Phil Pugliese
(13 Feb 2018 18:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
RiftRoamer
(15 Feb 2018 15:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Caleuche
(15 Feb 2018 17:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Bruce Johnson
(15 Feb 2018 21:03 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Phil Pugliese
(15 Feb 2018 21:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Greg Nokes
(16 Feb 2018 08:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Phil Pugliese
(16 Feb 2018 22:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Richard Aiken
(27 Feb 2018 03:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2018 04:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Rupert Boleyn
(13 Feb 2018 08:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Phil Pugliese
(13 Feb 2018 18:28 UTC)
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Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level
Bruce Johnson
(13 Feb 2018 23:03 UTC)
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Adding some more math: To make sure the order gets there and back, an agent would be sent. At Middle Passage all the way, (let's say Cepheus engine for pricing, so $8000/jump), that's $896,000. Let's say an order of 200 tons per agent (2.4 million phones), that adds $4480 per ton, or an additional $0.36/unit. Initial cost of order is $8,598,800/ton, for $1.7B over the 200 tons. Procurer agent is $896,000 for trip, but not counting salary. Shipping costs is $11.2M. And it takes 2 years for the order to go through completely. That's one hell of an investment in time. On 2/12/18, Cian Witherspoon <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm about to get real snarky here: > Way to not get the point of the model. > But yes, an ocean. That you can't communicate over, and it takes a > week to get to the closest island. > If the 20 mile limit is 1/6th of that distance, then 1 week of travel > (our parsec equivalent) is 120 miles. > How many parsecs are between New York and China? > About 56 if you're heading for Beijing. > It's about 24 if you want to get to Los Altos, where Apple was founded. > You can fit 12,931 iPhone's, in their packing boxes, per dTon. A > shipping crate would drop usable volume to 95%, so 12,284. It's > $700/unit, shipping from Beijing would add $4.55 to unit price (if it > was Jump-1 all the way) - but the total order would take 2 years and 8 > weeks, from placement of order, so... Courier costs get added in. > > On 2/12/18, Tim <xxxxxx@little-possums.net> wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:30:11AM -0800, Rusty Witherspoon wrote: >>> Now, let's take New York, and modify the model to reflect Traveller. >>> Radio, cell phones, internet, they all work within... Oh, let's say >>> 20 miles of the geographic center of NYC. You want something from >>> within that circle, you can get easy. At the 20 mile limit, there's >>> a wall. >> >> Or an ocean. >> >> >>> Now, let's get those Chinese iphones... >> >> Over the ocean, which is exactly what happens. >> >> >> - Tim >> ----- >> The Traveller Mailing List >> Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml >> Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com >> To unsubscribe from this list please go to >> http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=DZZu00eGt8rDmt14P7liTVEolKKLZVUJ >> >