Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Rusty Witherspoon (12 Feb 2018 19:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Tim (12 Feb 2018 23:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Cian Witherspoon (13 Feb 2018 00:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Cian Witherspoon (13 Feb 2018 00:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Tim (13 Feb 2018 00:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Cian Witherspoon (13 Feb 2018 01:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Phil Pugliese (13 Feb 2018 00:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Tim (13 Feb 2018 00:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Phil Pugliese (13 Feb 2018 07:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Cian Witherspoon (13 Feb 2018 08:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Phil Pugliese (13 Feb 2018 18:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level RiftRoamer (15 Feb 2018 15:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Caleuche (15 Feb 2018 17:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Bruce Johnson (15 Feb 2018 21:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Phil Pugliese (15 Feb 2018 21:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Greg Nokes (16 Feb 2018 08:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Phil Pugliese (16 Feb 2018 22:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Richard Aiken (27 Feb 2018 03:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level shadow@xxxxxx (21 Feb 2018 04:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Rupert Boleyn (13 Feb 2018 08:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Phil Pugliese (13 Feb 2018 18:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Bruce Johnson (13 Feb 2018 23:03 UTC)

Re: [TML] The meaning of world tech level Cian Witherspoon 13 Feb 2018 00:35 UTC

Adding some more math:
To make sure the order gets there and back, an agent would be sent. At
Middle Passage all the way, (let's say Cepheus engine for pricing, so
$8000/jump), that's $896,000.
Let's say an order of 200 tons per agent (2.4 million phones), that
adds $4480 per ton, or an additional $0.36/unit.
Initial cost of order is $8,598,800/ton, for $1.7B over the 200 tons.
Procurer agent is $896,000 for trip, but not counting salary. Shipping
costs is $11.2M.
And it takes 2 years for the order to go through completely.
That's one hell of an investment in time.

On 2/12/18, Cian Witherspoon <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm about to get real snarky here:
> Way to not get the point of the model.
> But yes, an ocean. That you can't communicate over, and it takes a
> week to get to the closest island.
> If the 20 mile limit is 1/6th of that distance, then 1 week of travel
> (our parsec equivalent) is 120 miles.
> How many parsecs are between New York and China?
> About 56 if you're heading for Beijing.
> It's about 24 if you want to get to Los Altos, where Apple was founded.
> You can fit 12,931 iPhone's, in their packing boxes, per dTon. A
> shipping crate would drop usable volume to 95%, so 12,284. It's
> $700/unit, shipping from Beijing would add $4.55 to unit price (if it
> was Jump-1 all the way) - but the total order would take 2 years and 8
> weeks, from placement of order, so... Courier costs get added in.
>
> On 2/12/18, Tim <xxxxxx@little-possums.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:30:11AM -0800, Rusty Witherspoon wrote:
>>> Now, let's take New York, and modify the model to reflect Traveller.
>>> Radio, cell phones, internet, they all work within... Oh, let's say
>>> 20 miles of the geographic center of NYC. You want something from
>>> within that circle, you can get easy. At the 20 mile limit, there's
>>> a wall.
>>
>> Or an ocean.
>>
>>
>>> Now, let's get those Chinese iphones...
>>
>> Over the ocean, which is exactly what happens.
>>
>>
>> - Tim
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