And that was a sphere with a radius of 3 meters. I'll rerun it at 0.7 meters a bit later. -------- Original Message -------- On January 30, 2018 5:38 PM, Caleuche <xxxxxx@sudnadja.com> wrote: >That was a good catch! > > When I updated the air friction function to add mass as a parameter, I inadvertently updated the equation using that function with the older version of the function, so whatever was still in the kernel was the mass used. > > Hopefully this looks more reasonable: > First, from entry interface to touchdown: >https://i.imgur.com/B9g1ivF.png > > then, the data: >https://i.imgur.com/1da7Jr4.png > > Peak dynamic pressure is now very low. > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > On January 30, 2018 4:40 PM, Tim xxxxxx@little-possums.net wrote: > >>On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 05:07:40PM -0500, Caleuche wrote: >>>I mistakenly ran the model with 1.4 meters radius rather than 1.4 >>> meters diameter, but otherwise modeled a sphere with radius 1.4 >>> meters, subsonic drag coefficient 0.47 and transsonic drag >>> coefficient 0.55, and supersonic drag coefficient 0.47 again (I need >>> to fix that, spheres have very high supersonic drag coefficients), >>> mass was modeled to be 104 kg for the sphere and 100 kg for the >>> astronaut+spacesuit (the same as the traveller reentry kit) but >>> going on with it: >>> Here is the plot from entry interface to touchdown: >>>https://i.imgur.com/APikZcR.png >>> And some of the extracted data: >>>https://i.imgur.com/zdxUmZG.png >>> Peak acceleration is just over 8g at around 20,000 meters altitude, >>> and dynamic pressure peaks at that time too, at around 650 kPa >>>That's not possible. Drag = dynamic pressure * coefficient * area, so >> with your figures the drag should be 2.2 MN, acting on a 204 kg object >> thus yielding a deceleration of 1100 gee. If you're getting 8 gee, >> then you must be using a mass of 28 tonnes (or some similarly far-out >> number elsewhere in the calculation). >>A chunk of solid rock of the same size might have a mass of 28 tonnes, >> and it would be physically reasonable for it to get down to 20 km >> altitude before slowing significantly, but an astronaut in a bubble >> won't. >> - Tim >>The Traveller Mailing List >> Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml >> Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com >> To unsubscribe from this list please go to >>http://archives.simplelists.com >> > > >The Traveller Mailing List > Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml > Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com > To unsubscribe from this list please go to >http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=0og3DHdoRHgL9lI7peOXYWnk6UF4c1zE >