Musings on Maneuver Drive
Robert O'Connor
(17 Dec 2017 04:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Richard Aiken
(17 Dec 2017 11:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive Rob O'Connor (18 Dec 2017 08:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
C. Berry
(18 Dec 2017 21:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Rob O'Connor
(20 Dec 2017 09:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
C. Berry
(20 Dec 2017 16:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Jerry Barrington
(20 Dec 2017 17:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Jerry Barrington
(20 Dec 2017 17:40 UTC)
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C. Berry
(20 Dec 2017 17:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Thomas RUX
(21 Dec 2017 04:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Richard Aiken
(21 Dec 2017 06:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Kelly St. Clair
(21 Dec 2017 06:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Richard Aiken
(21 Dec 2017 06:30 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(21 Dec 2017 18:18 UTC)
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Thomas RUX
(21 Dec 2017 21:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Kurt Feltenberger
(21 Dec 2017 23:48 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Jerry Barrington
(23 Dec 2017 13:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Edward Swatschek
(22 Dec 2017 01:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Phil Pugliese
(22 Dec 2017 05:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Richard Aiken
(21 Dec 2017 06:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Richard Aiken
(21 Dec 2017 06:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Rob O'Connor
(22 Dec 2017 07:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Richard Aiken
(22 Dec 2017 12:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Rob O'Connor
(23 Dec 2017 04:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Tim
(23 Dec 2017 07:46 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
shadow@xxxxxx
(24 Dec 2017 13:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Tim
(25 Dec 2017 00:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Robert O'Connor
(25 Dec 2017 04:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
shadow@xxxxxx
(01 Jan 2018 03:28 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
Rob O'Connor
(02 Jan 2018 03:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Musings on Maneuver Drive
shadow@xxxxxx
(02 Jan 2018 19:40 UTC)
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First, I made a mistake. I wrote: > In Traveller: The New Era TL 15 fusion consumes 100L per 6MW-years > or 6/1400 = 0.43% This should be 6/140 or 4.3%. 1L hydrogen = 1.4MW-years fusion power. Still not very good in terms of power plant performance. Richard Aiken wrote: > So . . . when I give my Fireflyesque multi-function reaction engines > enough on-board fuel endurance to handle 4 round trips to jump point > and back from a typical planet for ~5% of ship volume, I'm in the > right ballpark, physics-wise? Hmm. Using the first row of the travel time table in MT Ref's Companion (p.21): .28 days at 1G, .2 at 2G, .16 at 3G, .14 at 4G, .12 at 5G, .11 at 6G equals 6.72, 9.6, 12, 13.44, 14.4 and 15.84 G-hours respectively. 4 round trips = 8x above G-hour figures. Reaction drives that only need 5% of ship volume in fuel to get multi-G-hour performance are unlikely, thinking about the standard rocket equation. [delta-v = exhaust velocity x ln(initial mass/final mass), where ln = log to base e] I get required delta-v on the order of 1930-4500km/sec assuming 4 round trips over the 1-6G acceleration range. 5% volume implies (initial mass/final mass) gets close to one. If the fuel is liquid hydrogen, the mass is about 0.4%. So ln(1/0.996) is ~0.004.... The required exhaust velocity exceeds the speed of light. You're going to need lots more fuel. I decided to push things to the limit with my previous post. What would it take to get the performance level required? Direct conversion of most of the fuel's mass-energy to kinetic energy. Exhaust (waste energy) is a plume of neutrinos to avoid too many unpleasant interactions with nearby matter. 180G-hours thrust? 0.4% of the volume of the hull is fuel. 3 parts per 10,000 mass units is fuel. Rob O'Connor