On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 08:08:16AM -0500, Grimmund wrote: > You're conflating mechanical suspension with field operation. Plenty of fields do not need any power to maintain. Also, *you're* conflating "requires power in the vehicle design" with "requires power to carry out any part of its function whatsoever". Compare the following two paragraphs: In the ordinary course of driving a car, the wheels need to be supplied with power. This is required for accelerating, maintaining speed against friction, and for gaining altitude (when driving up hills). The wheels also prevent the underbody of the car from crashing into the ground. Vehicle design systems do not explicitly state whether the wheels need power to carry out the latter part of their function. It is assumed that people know that they don't. In the ordinary course of driving a grav vehicle, the grav plates need to be supplied with power. This is required for accelerating, maintaing speed against friction, and for gaining altitude. The grav plates also prevent the underbody of the vehicle from crashing into the ground. Vehicle design systems do not explicitly state whether the grav plates need power to carry out the latter part of their function. Unfortunately this time it cannot be assumed that people know whether or not they do, because it's imaginary magical technology. Hence this whole discussion, with half the people claiming that the laws of physics say that they have to consume power, while the other half explains why that's not true (and irrelevant in any case because it's imaginary magical technology). - Tim