Patton's sword & belaying pin, was Re: [TML] What if the cutlass is not a cutlass?
Phil Pugliese
(01 May 2017 19:36 UTC)
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Re: Patton's sword & belaying pin, was Re: [TML] What if the cutlass is not a cutlass?
Fred Kiesche
(01 May 2017 21:23 UTC)
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Re: Patton's sword & belaying pin, was Re: [TML] What if the cutlass is not a cutlass? Bruce Johnson (01 May 2017 21:54 UTC)
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Re: Patton's sword & belaying pin, was Re: [TML] What if the cutlass is not a cutlass?
Fred Kiesche
(01 May 2017 22:02 UTC)
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Re: Patton's sword & belaying pin, was Re: [TML] What if the cutlass is not a cutlass?
Fred Kiesche
(01 May 2017 21:51 UTC)
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> On May 1, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Fred Kiesche <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well, it appears that my attempt at showing history with a picture dud not work, so here's my text: Got stuck in the approval queue. Here’s an article about the relevant sabre. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_1913_Cavalry_Saber> > > "My mother has my (paternal) grandfather's US Cav sword, which we can see him holding (from the front) in a 1918 picture of his unit. It is curved, not straight. I'll try embedding the image below (not sure if the list will accept that?) (He is fourth from the left)." > > > On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 15:36 Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote: > > -------------------------------------------- > On Mon, 5/1/17, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [TML] What if the cutlass is not a cutlass? > To: "xxxxxx@simplelists.com" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> > Date: Monday, May 1, 2017, 9:50 AM > > [Lot's of good stuff snipped] > > Swords designed to be used > from horseback, for example, tend to all look alike: curved > blades designed for slashing in an arc without the tip > hanging up to dislodge the rider, long enough to reach a > foot soldier alongside a horse, short enough to be easy to > wield from the saddle one handed. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I recall reading somewhere that Patton, while still a jr officer & after he competed in the Olympics, managed to get himself assigned to the project to design a new cavalry sword for the US Army. I also recall it was before WWI. > Anyway, I remember the new sword was described as "a straight sword intended for chopping instead of slashing"<sic> which surprised me as I was accustomed to the sort of saber seen on most old westerns. Now that I'm thinking about it, I also recall reading an article about the army that Gustavus Adolphus brought into the Thirty-Years War. As I remember his cavalry was distinguished by using a straight 'chopping' sword. > > ------------------------- > [More snipping] > -------------------------- > > Famously the cutlass was > designed to be used by inexperienced sailors in close > quarters; in truth, hatchets and short axes were used almost > as frequently, as those were very common tools aboard a > wooden ship (thus multiple use devices), and are as easy to > wield (probably easier, since they get used a lot, so > there’s muscle memory.) > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Heck even the good ol' belaying pin would come in handy during a boarding melee" > As my (retired vet) Dad used to say; > "hit'em on top of his head so hard he'll have three tongues in his shoes!" > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > There isn’t ‘one true sword design’. > > Frankly the imperial > 'cutlass’ probably looks as much like this <http://www.leevalley.com/us/garden/page.aspx?p=65248&cat=2,45794> as anything else. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Hey! You've just discovered the KTLSS (commonly referred to as a 'cutlass'). > The standard boarding weapon of the Imperial Marines. > > ===================================================================== > ----- > The Traveller Mailing List > Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml > Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com > To unsubscribe from this list please go to > http://archives.simplelists.com > -- > F.P. Kiesche III > > Husband, Father, Good Cook. Reader. Keeper of abandoned dogs. Catholic Liberal Conservative Militarist. Does not fit into a neat box or category. "Ah Mr. Gibbon, another damned, fat, square book. Always, scribble, scribble, scribble, eh?" (The Duke of Gloucester, on being presented with Volume 2 of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.) Blogging at Bernal Alpha. On Twitter as @FredKiesche > > ----- > The Traveller Mailing List > Archives at > http://archives.simplelists.com/tml > > Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com > To unsubscribe from this list please go to > http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=SVsSnnCJk1ACiTghqxnWgr8yCl9WeXKi > -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs