Another side note, jabru & tin horn, was Re: [TML] Jabru, a side note... Phil Pugliese (08 Sep 2016 03:30 UTC)

Another side note, jabru & tin horn, was Re: [TML] Jabru, a side note... Phil Pugliese 08 Sep 2016 03:30 UTC

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Just as another side note;
I heard the word 'jabru' many, many times both as I was growing up & right up until my father passed away.
He was a career ArmyAirCorps/AAF/USAF pilot who started out in WWII & went on from there.
The phrase he used was "from here to jabru" as in "That's gonna' be screwed up from here to jabru".
I never actually got around to asking him what/if the word originally really meant anything although we DID have several long discussions about the origin of the phrase "go/went thru him/them like 'crap/shit thru a tin horn'". I'd also heard that one many, many times but when it was used as part of the Patton characters dialog in the 'Battle of the Bulge' movie, I decided it's usage must've been pretty widespread & my interest was piqued.

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On Wed, 9/7/16, Freelance Traveller <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com> wrote:

 Subject: [TML] Jabru, a side note...
 To: "The Traveller Mailing List" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 5:27 PM

 For those that asked...

 The word "Jabru" as the name of the solicited adventure and
 the "title"
 character was chosen as a not-unlikely slurring/wearing-down
 of the word
 for "devil" in several primarily-Latin-derived languages.
 The IPA
 representation of the "J" sound (as it generally occurs in
 English) is,
 roughly, 'd3', where the 3 is the flat-topped orthographic
 variant, and
 is an old-style descender (and represents the sound of the
 "z" in
 "azure" or the "s" in "measure". The 'd3' sound is
 more-or-less a blend
 of "d" with the sound represented by '3', and is a
 not-unreasonable
 'slurring' of the "di" combination. The word for "devil"
 generally has
 an "l" as its final consonant, but it is known that
 (linguistically),
 "l" can be substituted for "r" (and vice-versa) under
 certain
 circumstances (this is a stereotype 'against' speakers of
 Sinitic
 language learning English late in life); it should thus be
 fairly clear
 what the 'evolution' from "diable/diablo" to "jabru" is.

 The authors of the submitted adventures all appear to have
 more-or-less
 "caught" this in writing their responses to the
 challenge/solicitation,
 but clearly not everyone did.

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