Another side note, jabru & tin horn, was Re: [TML] Jabru, a side note...
Phil Pugliese 08 Sep 2016 03:30 UTC
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Just as another side note;
I heard the word 'jabru' many, many times both as I was growing up & right up until my father passed away.
He was a career ArmyAirCorps/AAF/USAF pilot who started out in WWII & went on from there.
The phrase he used was "from here to jabru" as in "That's gonna' be screwed up from here to jabru".
I never actually got around to asking him what/if the word originally really meant anything although we DID have several long discussions about the origin of the phrase "go/went thru him/them like 'crap/shit thru a tin horn'". I'd also heard that one many, many times but when it was used as part of the Patton characters dialog in the 'Battle of the Bulge' movie, I decided it's usage must've been pretty widespread & my interest was piqued.
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On Wed, 9/7/16, Freelance Traveller <xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com> wrote:
Subject: [TML] Jabru, a side note...
To: "The Traveller Mailing List" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 5:27 PM
For those that asked...
The word "Jabru" as the name of the solicited adventure and
the "title"
character was chosen as a not-unlikely slurring/wearing-down
of the word
for "devil" in several primarily-Latin-derived languages.
The IPA
representation of the "J" sound (as it generally occurs in
English) is,
roughly, 'd3', where the 3 is the flat-topped orthographic
variant, and
is an old-style descender (and represents the sound of the
"z" in
"azure" or the "s" in "measure". The 'd3' sound is
more-or-less a blend
of "d" with the sound represented by '3', and is a
not-unreasonable
'slurring' of the "di" combination. The word for "devil"
generally has
an "l" as its final consonant, but it is known that
(linguistically),
"l" can be substituted for "r" (and vice-versa) under
certain
circumstances (this is a stereotype 'against' speakers of
Sinitic
language learning English late in life); it should thus be
fairly clear
what the 'evolution' from "diable/diablo" to "jabru" is.
The authors of the submitted adventures all appear to have
more-or-less
"caught" this in writing their responses to the
challenge/solicitation,
but clearly not everyone did.
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