------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sounds good to me. And there could also be some other reasons, 'back-to-nature' types, etc... -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, C. Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: Fun facts: Was: [TML] CT: "Far" companions... To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 10:46 AM I've always assumed that any settled system will produce enough food for its residents. It's trivially easy to do that with hydroponics at lower TLs, or straight synthesis at higher ones. Ag worlds, in my view, produce luxury "real" foods that are imported elsewhere as supplements, not staples. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote: This email was sent from yahoo.com which does not allow forwarding of emails via email lists. Therefore the sender's email address (xxxxxx@yahoo.com) has been replaced with a dummy one. The original message follows: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -- I don't see the lack of an 'ag' rating to mean that a system can't feed itself. In fact, I believe the vast majority do just that. It could be argued that 'ag' worlds are something of an anomaly in an ultra Hi-Tech setting such as the TU. ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- On Tue, 8/30/16, Jerry Barrington <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: Fun facts: Was: [TML] CT: "Far" companions... To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2016, 5:57 AM Well, that's only 64 modern Earths worth of population. 134 modern Earth's worth of agriculture is over twice what you need to feed them, let alone future agriculture + what all the less agricultural planets will produce. I don't think you really have a problem. Of course, it *does* mean a lot of food is going to be shipping around the Imperium. On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Christopher Sean Hilton <xxxxxx@vindaloo.com> wrote: On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:32:21AM +1000, Tim wrote: [ ...snip... ] > > I expect every star in the galaxy to have been catalogued thousands of > years before even the First Imperium. Even most of the planets and > their orbits would have been identified. Certainly that would hold > for every system within a thousand parsecs of Traveller's charted > space. > This statement got me thinking this morning and I did a little SQL hacking... I "diced" up sector this morning my CT expanded system generator, I notice that Agricultural Worlds are really rare. I created a sector this morning and out of 14207 total worlds 134 would be classified Ag by Book 7. These 14207 worlds have a total population of 468.8 billion sophants. My system is still currently still in test. I just fixed a bug in atmosphere and hydrographics generation. My system only generates Solo star systems so there is a shortage of habitable zone planets. All of these factors should depress the number of Ag planets, but I don't expect it to go up by a factor of ten when these problems are fixed. I think that the driver for this the fact is the DM of -2 for planets generated around spectral class M stars. Class M stars are by far the most commonly generated. It's important because the basic Mainworld generation sequence has no size DM and imposes a reverse DM on the star's spectral class when you expand a system by detailing what it's star is. -- Chris __o "All I was trying to do was get home from work." _`\<,_ -Rosa Parks ___(*)/_(*)____.___o____..___. .o...________ooO...___________ __________ Christopher Sean Hilton [chris/at/vindaloo/dot/com] ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists. com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://www.simplelists.com/ confirm.php?u= z4ykj54zpoNxz3pUaE773cJHeATwsg Su ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists. com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://archives.simplelists. com ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists. com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://www.simplelists.com/ confirm.php?u= PltOdItWBSgOP4y0Q6abkGbDI1eus0 lz -- "Eternity is in love with the productions of time." - William Blake ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=EwREIRgLK8vaUEhNlnoNdSGKwnjoID8a