On 5/15/2016 9:52 AM, Grimmund wrote:
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> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Thomas Jones-Low <xxxxxx@gmail.com
> <mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     2) The K'kree reject the Hiver peace treaty. The upgraded Hiver navy begins
>     reconquer the Hiver border worlds, then advanced into K'kree space. Their
>     sense of parental caring toward the K'kree client races pushes them to
>     conquer the whole of K'kree space. And the K'kree become just another
>     Federation member.
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> Multiple hiver manipulators bid on "manipulation rights" to individual K'Kree
> planets (or continents, or settlements) with an overall goal of 'civilizing' the
> K'Kree, manipulating them toward tolerance of others and reducing their cultural
> tendency to stomp anything threatening.

	This is the thing I've never seen. The Hiver don't have a centralized (or even
decentralized) coordination point for their Manipulations. So if you have 5000
potential manipulators all attempting to prove their latest theory of social
change, do the effect cancel or amplify?

	I'm guessing that in most cases the effect cancel. The effort of the
Manipulator generates a minor, localized change with some improvements. Enough
to provide the much sought after "Manipulator" title. But not enough to effect a
sweeping wide area change.

	On the other hand, if you have all N of them working toward a similar goal,
even if the details differ, there are going to be unintended consequences.

	I have no doubt that over the last 3000 years the Hiver have been doing exactly
that. The question is, to what effect? The K'kree haven't restarted the war.
They still hate/fear G'nakk, but not enough to gather a huge fleet and go on a
sector wide stomping expedition. This counts as a success, in some definition of
success. From the Hiver perspective, problem solved.

	The K'kree perspective is, of course, wildly different. But they don't talk
about it with strangers.

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