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On Sat, 5/14/16, David Shaw <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: K'kree vs Hiver, was Re: [TML] GMing Manipulations
 To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com
 Date: Saturday, May 14, 2016, 5:26 AM

 On 14 May 2016 11:52, "Phil Pugliese (via tml
 list)" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 wrote:
 >

 > For me, it's not the 'panic' that's in
 question.

 >

 > It's their response that is in question.

 >

 > I think the K'kree' response would be to
 'smite the predator' not 'run, hide, &
 pretend/hope it doesn't really exist'
 Having once seen a film of bison (buffalo?)
 attacking lion cubs and completely ignoring the rest of the
 pride that was trying to stop them, I can sympathize with
 your position.
 However, the way I look at it is that the
 K'kree world view is very hard, but also very brittle.
 When the Hiver presented the K'kree leaders with
 something which was the very epitome of impossibility,
 doubtless with more or less subtle hints that they had even
 worse planned, then that world view shattered, inducing a
 kind of panic catatonia.
 And while the K'kree were dithering, the
 Hiver continued to manipulate them to bring about the
 peaceful outcome to the war that they wanted. Whether or not
 the total extermination of the 'infected' K'kree
 was intended by the Hiver or merely one of several
 acceptable outcomes is a moot point.
 David Shaw
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I can agree with that but I would argue that it doesn't go far enough.

I don't believe a society that rigid would be able to suffer such a 'panic catatonia'  w/o suffering a severe upheaval.
Now, if the Hivers have their tentacles imbedded so deeply that they could 'guide' the K'kree thru something like that then they really are well on the way to becoming another (semi)slave race like the  Ithklur.

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