Re: K'kree vs Hiver, was Re: [TML] GMing Manipulations Phil Pugliese 14 May 2016 10:47 UTC

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On Fri, 5/13/16, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: K'kree vs Hiver, was Re: [TML] GMing Manipulations
 To: "tml" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 Date: Friday, May 13, 2016, 9:48 AM

 On Fri, May
 13, 2016 at

 >  12:00 AM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) wrote:

 Nah, the manipulation had to be known to more than a few
 higher poo-bahs 'cuz wiping out the world/s wouldn't
 have happened otherwise.
 The forces carrying out the sterilization had
 no need to know the REAL reason that they were killing
 billions. And one Hell of a reason (e.g. mass insanity) NOT
 to know!
 > Not a trivial endeavor at all.
 IIRF, canon says nothing about how the
 sterilization was carried out. One ship per world carrying a
 bioplague and enough nukes to blanket the target world in
 EMP could do the job.
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Still too 'non-trivial' to be known only to the 'high council' or whatever the K'kree call it.

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 > Also, the K'kree were winning quite
 handily already so amping things up would've just
 hastened the Hiver defeat.
 Not really. The Hiver just preferred to
 retreat, sacrificing client races to give their manipulation
 time to mature. If really up against it, they would not have
 been an easy conquest. No large interstellar state -
 particularly not one as unified as the Hiver Federation and
 given CT tech assumptions - can be easily destroyed.

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Nah, once the K'kree go into extermination mode, it gets a lot easier.
If they're willing to wipe out worlds it becomes easier not harder as your example amply illustrates.
And we already know they're willing to do that.

True, it would NOT have been easy but  that's where the fanaticism comes in.
And it would be very easy to justify from their pov, considering what the Hivers had done to them.

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 > I guess if they'll tolerate humans
 they'll tolerate just about *anything*.  ;-)
 Given that there are native pacifist vegetarian
 humans, perhaps the K'kree have hopes that humans will
 become "sane" on their own, given time.

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That could be.
Or maybe humans are just farther down the list, so to speak.
I'm sure the vargr are haven't escaped their notice either.

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