Re: [TML] Instant city
babyduck1
(15 Feb 2016 12:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(16 Feb 2016 10:03 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(16 Feb 2016 14:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Thomas Jones-Low
(16 Feb 2016 14:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(16 Feb 2016 19:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(16 Feb 2016 23:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(16 Feb 2016 23:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(17 Feb 2016 14:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(17 Feb 2016 16:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(17 Feb 2016 16:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(17 Feb 2016 17:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(17 Feb 2016 17:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(17 Feb 2016 17:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(18 Feb 2016 14:11 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Tim
(19 Feb 2016 00:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 02:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(17 Feb 2016 17:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(17 Feb 2016 17:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 02:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 02:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city shadow@xxxxxx (21 Feb 2016 01:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(17 Feb 2016 01:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(17 Feb 2016 04:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(17 Feb 2016 07:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(17 Feb 2016 12:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(17 Feb 2016 14:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(17 Feb 2016 15:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 02:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 01:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 00:23 UTC)
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On 16 Feb 2016 at 15:43, Craig Berry wrote: > Regarding time: Basically, unless two events share a "light cone" -- > that is, roughly speaking, the number of light-seconds separating > them in distance is less than the number of seconds separating them > in time -- those two events have no fixed ordering. Depending on > relative speeds, different observers will see the two events > happening in either order, or simultaneously. This makes it > impossible to talk about "now" meaningfully for anywhere other than > where you are. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_of_simultaneity Of course the mere *existence* of jump trashes this. Pick any *two*: 1. relativity 2. FTL 3. strict *local* causality (you can have *global* casuality without local causality. Basic difference is between "causes alway precede events" and "in most frames causes preced events") -- Leonard Erickson (aka shadow) shadow at shadowgard dot com