Re: [TML] Instant city
babyduck1
(15 Feb 2016 12:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(16 Feb 2016 10:03 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Thomas Jones-Low
(16 Feb 2016 14:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(16 Feb 2016 19:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(16 Feb 2016 23:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(16 Feb 2016 23:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(17 Feb 2016 14:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(17 Feb 2016 16:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(17 Feb 2016 17:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 02:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 02:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 01:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(17 Feb 2016 01:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(17 Feb 2016 04:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(17 Feb 2016 07:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(17 Feb 2016 12:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(17 Feb 2016 14:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(17 Feb 2016 15:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 02:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 01:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city shadow@xxxxxx (21 Feb 2016 00:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(16 Feb 2016 14:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(17 Feb 2016 16:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(17 Feb 2016 17:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(17 Feb 2016 17:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(17 Feb 2016 17:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(18 Feb 2016 14:11 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Tim
(19 Feb 2016 00:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 02:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(17 Feb 2016 17:04 UTC)
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On 17 Feb 2016 at 6:53, Greg Chalik wrote: > Synchronise planetary orbits also? No, this is why you have to distinguish between "local" (planetary) time and "standard" ("universal") time in a society that encompasses more than one planet. The Mars Landers have already established the "sol" as the local solar day on Mars. I'm of the opinion we should generalize that to all planet that we'll be spending enough time on the surface of to care about the local day. You *need* to call it something different to avoid confusion. 30 days is a lot different than 30 sols. A Martian sol is 24 hours 39 minutes 35.244 seconds, or 1.03... days. So 30 sols is a bit under 31 days (30.8) For planets with bigger differences between their sol and a day, things get out of synch a lot faster. Likewise, you don't want to divide the sol into hours, minutes and seconds, as that can result in dangerous confusion as well. Some authors have used div(s), others dura(s), and I suggested peri(s) in several previous discussions of this sort of thing. How many should be in a sol depends on the length of the sol. some numbers make it easier than others to divide up the sol for various purposes without involving ugly fractions. Or you can just go decimal, and deal with the fractions. There needs to be a generic term for "local year" as well. Something that won't get confused with "year" or "annum". Months aren't a big problem since they vary in length on Earth anyway (though they don't in the Imperial calendar. even so the Imperium doesn't really make much use of them). Weeks? Who knows? a complicating factor with them is that most religions have a 7 day week cycle built into them. and even on Mars, trying to use a 7 sol cycle instead would quickly get them out of synch with Earth. -- Leonard Erickson (aka shadow) shadow at shadowgard dot com