Instant city
Knapp
(09 Feb 2016 16:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(09 Feb 2016 16:27 UTC)
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Kelly St. Clair
(09 Feb 2016 16:45 UTC)
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carlos.web@xxxxxx
(09 Feb 2016 16:52 UTC)
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Knapp
(09 Feb 2016 18:50 UTC)
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Greg Chalik
(09 Feb 2016 19:15 UTC)
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RE: [TML] Instant city
Antony Farrell
(10 Feb 2016 03:33 UTC)
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Greg Nokes
(09 Feb 2016 17:44 UTC)
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Peter L. Berghold
(09 Feb 2016 16:55 UTC)
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Kelly St. Clair
(09 Feb 2016 17:33 UTC)
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Kelly St. Clair
(09 Feb 2016 17:39 UTC)
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Peter L. Berghold
(09 Feb 2016 18:13 UTC)
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Doug Grimes
(09 Feb 2016 19:19 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(09 Feb 2016 19:27 UTC)
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Grimmund
(09 Feb 2016 21:02 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Peter L. Berghold
(09 Feb 2016 21:12 UTC)
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William Ewing
(11 Feb 2016 06:46 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(11 Feb 2016 06:14 UTC)
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Greg Chalik
(11 Feb 2016 07:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Traveller
(11 Feb 2016 13:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(11 Feb 2016 14:44 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(11 Feb 2016 15:03 UTC)
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tmr0195@xxxxxx
(11 Feb 2016 16:16 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(11 Feb 2016 16:29 UTC)
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tmr0195@xxxxxx
(11 Feb 2016 20:15 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(11 Feb 2016 20:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(11 Feb 2016 21:40 UTC)
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Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Bruce Johnson
(11 Feb 2016 21:16 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(11 Feb 2016 22:00 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Bruce Johnson
(11 Feb 2016 22:46 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Kelly St. Clair
(12 Feb 2016 01:44 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Richard Aiken
(12 Feb 2016 05:01 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 17:41 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Richard Aiken
(13 Feb 2016 03:01 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 06:36 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Ethan McKinney
(11 Feb 2016 22:58 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 06:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Knapp
(11 Feb 2016 15:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Knapp
(11 Feb 2016 15:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(11 Feb 2016 18:37 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(11 Feb 2016 18:50 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(11 Feb 2016 18:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Knapp
(11 Feb 2016 18:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(11 Feb 2016 19:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(11 Feb 2016 20:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(11 Feb 2016 20:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(11 Feb 2016 20:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(19 Feb 2016 06:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(11 Feb 2016 19:31 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(11 Feb 2016 18:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(11 Feb 2016 19:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Nokes
(11 Feb 2016 19:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(11 Feb 2016 19:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(11 Feb 2016 18:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(11 Feb 2016 20:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(11 Feb 2016 21:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(11 Feb 2016 21:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Grimmund
(12 Feb 2016 15:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(11 Feb 2016 22:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 00:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 00:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 01:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 07:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 08:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 09:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 10:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Knapp
(12 Feb 2016 10:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Knapp
(12 Feb 2016 11:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 20:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Knapp
(14 Feb 2016 18:02 UTC)
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tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 15:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 16:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 17:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 17:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 14:37 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(12 Feb 2016 15:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 15:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(12 Feb 2016 17:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 18:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 20:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 21:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
William Ewing
(13 Feb 2016 01:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(13 Feb 2016 01:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(13 Feb 2016 02:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
William Ewing
(14 Feb 2016 06:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(14 Feb 2016 06:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
William Ewing
(14 Feb 2016 06:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(19 Feb 2016 22:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 20:46 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 20:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 21:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Grimmund
(12 Feb 2016 21:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(12 Feb 2016 21:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 22:02 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(13 Feb 2016 02:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 21:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 22:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
William Ewing
(13 Feb 2016 01:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(13 Feb 2016 01:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(13 Feb 2016 02:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(13 Feb 2016 02:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(13 Feb 2016 02:21 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(13 Feb 2016 02:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(13 Feb 2016 03:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Timothy Collinson
(13 Feb 2016 07:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(19 Feb 2016 07:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(13 Feb 2016 03:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
William Ewing
(14 Feb 2016 06:26 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(14 Feb 2016 06:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
William Ewing
(14 Feb 2016 07:03 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(14 Feb 2016 19:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(15 Feb 2016 00:48 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(15 Feb 2016 03:08 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(15 Feb 2016 03:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(15 Feb 2016 04:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
William Ewing
(15 Feb 2016 09:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(15 Feb 2016 03:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(15 Feb 2016 03:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(15 Feb 2016 04:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(15 Feb 2016 04:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(15 Feb 2016 04:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(15 Feb 2016 05:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Knapp
(15 Feb 2016 11:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
shadow@xxxxxx
(19 Feb 2016 22:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Jeffrey Schwartz
(12 Feb 2016 15:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 15:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Timothy Collinson
(12 Feb 2016 04:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 07:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(12 Feb 2016 07:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 07:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 14:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Bruce Johnson
(12 Feb 2016 20:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 21:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(13 Feb 2016 01:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Richard Aiken
(13 Feb 2016 01:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(13 Feb 2016 03:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Timothy Collinson
(12 Feb 2016 09:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(12 Feb 2016 10:19 UTC)
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Re[2]: [TML] Instant city
Timothy Collinson
(12 Feb 2016 20:42 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Jeffrey Schwartz
(12 Feb 2016 15:22 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 15:55 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Kelly St. Clair
(12 Feb 2016 17:36 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(12 Feb 2016 18:19 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Craig Berry
(12 Feb 2016 19:15 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Andrew Long
(12 Feb 2016 22:42 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx
(13 Feb 2016 01:19 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Craig Berry
(13 Feb 2016 01:56 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(13 Feb 2016 03:17 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Richard Aiken
(13 Feb 2016 03:17 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
tmr0195@xxxxxx
(13 Feb 2016 03:37 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx
(13 Feb 2016 07:18 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Greg Nokes
(16 Feb 2016 02:07 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Richard Aiken
(16 Feb 2016 23:11 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Craig Berry
(16 Feb 2016 23:35 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Richard Aiken
(16 Feb 2016 23:59 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Craig Berry
(17 Feb 2016 00:06 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Richard Aiken
(17 Feb 2016 00:39 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Craig Berry
(17 Feb 2016 00:51 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Richard Aiken
(17 Feb 2016 03:25 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Bruce Johnson
(17 Feb 2016 03:25 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Richard Aiken
(17 Feb 2016 03:33 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) shadow@xxxxxx (21 Feb 2016 00:23 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Bruce Johnson
(12 Feb 2016 21:11 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Jeffrey Schwartz
(15 Feb 2016 14:04 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Richard Aiken
(15 Feb 2016 17:15 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx
(15 Feb 2016 21:07 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 00:23 UTC)
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Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city)
shadow@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2016 00:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(13 Feb 2016 10:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Knapp
(14 Feb 2016 20:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(14 Feb 2016 20:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Knapp
(14 Feb 2016 20:45 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Greg Chalik
(14 Feb 2016 21:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Instant city
Tim
(15 Feb 2016 01:03 UTC)
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Modelling Traveller Ships in Blender. (Was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Peter L. Berghold
(14 Feb 2016 20:55 UTC)
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Re: Modelling Traveller Ships in Blender. (Was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Knapp
(15 Feb 2016 11:35 UTC)
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Re: Modelling Traveller Ships in Blender. (Was Re: [TML] Instant city)
Peter L. Berghold
(15 Feb 2016 14:38 UTC)
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On 15 Feb 2016 at 18:06, Greg Nokes wrote: > Ok, here's my take on it. > > Early Jump Drives need a gas bubble to inflate the portion of space > time. These are refined more and more allowing for longer jumps - > transiting "deeper" jump spaces with stranger physics. actually one of the reasons for suggesting the hydrogen jump bubble (and wanting refined fuel) went like this. I was one of the folks involved in that bit of ancient history. It's known that the laws of physics are different in J-space. It's also know that anything that gets too far from the ship while in jump ("crosses the edge of the bubble") disappears in a burst of nasty radiation. same goes for when a damaged jump grids lets J-space intrude into part of the ship. Well, it only takes a *small* change in one of the universal constants (I think it's the fine structure constant) to make neutrons impossible as well as atomic nuclei. So if that's one of the changes between N-space and J-space, then normal matter (including deuterium and tritium) crossing the edge of the bubble would have *all* their neutrons undergo inverse beta decay, relasing a positron and a neutrino. As the positrons react with electrons, that'll give a lot of gamma radiation and the energy release from all those protons repelling each other will be significant as well. So, using "refined" hydrogen (ie only H1, aka "protium") for "padding" in the jump bubble means there won't be any nasty radiation (and other problems that might affect the jump bubble) as it inevitably leaks acvross the bubble boundary. Obviously, since ships *do* survive unrefined fuel, and having people of parts/tools drift across the boundary, the rweaction postulated abpove isn't instantaneous, but takes a bit of time and (likely) much of it takes place on the other side of the boundary. Still, it provides a reasonably plausible logic, as well as giving the ref some nice "local color" for describing what hapens if something tangles with the boundary of the jump bubble. -- Leonard Erickson (aka shadow) shadow at shadowgard dot com