Instant city Knapp (09 Feb 2016 16:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Jeffrey Schwartz (09 Feb 2016 16:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Kelly St. Clair (09 Feb 2016 16:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city carlos.web@xxxxxx (09 Feb 2016 16:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (09 Feb 2016 18:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (09 Feb 2016 19:15 UTC)
RE: [TML] Instant city Antony Farrell (10 Feb 2016 03:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Nokes (09 Feb 2016 17:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Peter L. Berghold (09 Feb 2016 16:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Kelly St. Clair (09 Feb 2016 17:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Kelly St. Clair (09 Feb 2016 17:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Peter L. Berghold (09 Feb 2016 18:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Doug Grimes (09 Feb 2016 19:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (09 Feb 2016 19:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Grimmund (09 Feb 2016 21:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Peter L. Berghold (09 Feb 2016 21:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city William Ewing (11 Feb 2016 06:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Richard Aiken (11 Feb 2016 06:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (11 Feb 2016 07:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Traveller (11 Feb 2016 13:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 Feb 2016 14:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Jeffrey Schwartz (11 Feb 2016 15:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (11 Feb 2016 15:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (11 Feb 2016 15:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Bruce Johnson (11 Feb 2016 18:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Jeffrey Schwartz (11 Feb 2016 18:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (11 Feb 2016 18:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (11 Feb 2016 18:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (11 Feb 2016 19:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 Feb 2016 20:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Bruce Johnson (11 Feb 2016 19:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (11 Feb 2016 18:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Bruce Johnson (11 Feb 2016 19:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Nokes (11 Feb 2016 19:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Bruce Johnson (11 Feb 2016 19:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (11 Feb 2016 18:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (11 Feb 2016 20:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Bruce Johnson (11 Feb 2016 21:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (11 Feb 2016 21:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Grimmund (12 Feb 2016 15:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 Feb 2016 16:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Jeffrey Schwartz (11 Feb 2016 16:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 Feb 2016 20:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Jeffrey Schwartz (11 Feb 2016 20:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 Feb 2016 21:40 UTC)
Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Bruce Johnson (11 Feb 2016 21:16 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 Feb 2016 22:00 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Bruce Johnson (11 Feb 2016 22:46 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Kelly St. Clair (12 Feb 2016 01:44 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Richard Aiken (12 Feb 2016 05:01 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 17:41 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Richard Aiken (13 Feb 2016 03:01 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 06:36 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Ethan McKinney (11 Feb 2016 22:58 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 06:40 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Jeffrey Schwartz (12 Feb 2016 15:22 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 15:55 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Kelly St. Clair (12 Feb 2016 17:36 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 18:19 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 19:15 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Andrew Long (12 Feb 2016 22:42 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx (13 Feb 2016 01:19 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Craig Berry (13 Feb 2016 01:56 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) tmr0195@xxxxxx (13 Feb 2016 03:17 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Richard Aiken (13 Feb 2016 03:17 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) tmr0195@xxxxxx (13 Feb 2016 03:37 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx (13 Feb 2016 07:18 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Greg Nokes (16 Feb 2016 02:07 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Richard Aiken (16 Feb 2016 23:11 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Craig Berry (16 Feb 2016 23:35 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Richard Aiken (16 Feb 2016 23:59 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Craig Berry (17 Feb 2016 00:06 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Richard Aiken (17 Feb 2016 00:39 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Craig Berry (17 Feb 2016 00:51 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Richard Aiken (17 Feb 2016 03:25 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Bruce Johnson (17 Feb 2016 03:25 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Richard Aiken (17 Feb 2016 03:33 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) shadow@xxxxxx (21 Feb 2016 00:23 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Bruce Johnson (12 Feb 2016 21:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (11 Feb 2016 20:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 Feb 2016 20:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city shadow@xxxxxx (19 Feb 2016 06:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (11 Feb 2016 22:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 00:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 00:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 01:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 07:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 08:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 09:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 10:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (12 Feb 2016 10:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (12 Feb 2016 11:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 20:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (14 Feb 2016 18:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 15:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 16:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 17:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 17:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 14:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Jeffrey Schwartz (12 Feb 2016 15:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 15:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Jeffrey Schwartz (12 Feb 2016 17:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 18:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 20:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 21:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city William Ewing (13 Feb 2016 01:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (13 Feb 2016 01:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Richard Aiken (13 Feb 2016 02:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city William Ewing (14 Feb 2016 06:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (14 Feb 2016 06:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city William Ewing (14 Feb 2016 06:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city shadow@xxxxxx (19 Feb 2016 22:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 20:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 20:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 21:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Grimmund (12 Feb 2016 21:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Bruce Johnson (12 Feb 2016 21:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 22:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (13 Feb 2016 02:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 21:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 22:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city William Ewing (13 Feb 2016 01:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (13 Feb 2016 01:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Bruce Johnson (13 Feb 2016 02:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Richard Aiken (13 Feb 2016 02:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Richard Aiken (13 Feb 2016 02:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (13 Feb 2016 02:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Richard Aiken (13 Feb 2016 03:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Timothy Collinson (13 Feb 2016 07:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city shadow@xxxxxx (19 Feb 2016 07:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (13 Feb 2016 03:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city William Ewing (14 Feb 2016 06:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (14 Feb 2016 06:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city William Ewing (14 Feb 2016 07:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (14 Feb 2016 19:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Richard Aiken (15 Feb 2016 00:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (15 Feb 2016 03:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (15 Feb 2016 03:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (15 Feb 2016 04:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city William Ewing (15 Feb 2016 09:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (15 Feb 2016 03:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (15 Feb 2016 03:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (15 Feb 2016 04:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (15 Feb 2016 04:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (15 Feb 2016 04:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (15 Feb 2016 05:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (15 Feb 2016 11:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city shadow@xxxxxx (19 Feb 2016 22:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Jeffrey Schwartz (12 Feb 2016 15:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city tmr0195@xxxxxx (12 Feb 2016 15:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Timothy Collinson (12 Feb 2016 04:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 07:34 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Richard Aiken (12 Feb 2016 07:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 07:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Craig Berry (12 Feb 2016 14:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Bruce Johnson (12 Feb 2016 20:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 21:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Richard Aiken (13 Feb 2016 01:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Richard Aiken (13 Feb 2016 01:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (13 Feb 2016 03:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Timothy Collinson (12 Feb 2016 09:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (12 Feb 2016 10:19 UTC)
Re[2]: [TML] Instant city Timothy Collinson (12 Feb 2016 20:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (13 Feb 2016 10:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (14 Feb 2016 20:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (14 Feb 2016 20:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Knapp (14 Feb 2016 20:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Greg Chalik (14 Feb 2016 21:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Instant city Tim (15 Feb 2016 01:03 UTC)
Modelling Traveller Ships in Blender. (Was Re: [TML] Instant city) Peter L. Berghold (14 Feb 2016 20:55 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Jeffrey Schwartz (15 Feb 2016 14:04 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) Richard Aiken (15 Feb 2016 17:15 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx (15 Feb 2016 21:07 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) shadow@xxxxxx (21 Feb 2016 00:23 UTC)
Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) shadow@xxxxxx (21 Feb 2016 00:23 UTC)

Re: Jump Fuel (was Re: [TML] Instant city) rupert.boleyn@xxxxxx 13 Feb 2016 07:18 UTC

On 12 Feb 2016 at 17:55, Craig Berry wrote:

> The Jump Bubble explanation is the one that comes closest to both
> making some kind of sense, and being canonical. It's contradicted by
> Darrian antimatter ships and the Annic Nova. But I'm happy to eject
> those from canon to make things work reasonably.

So am I, or to change them so they only get to use those as power plants to charge the
jump drive. No useful reduction in fuel consumption. That said, I'm willing to entertain
an improvement in fuel consumption at TL17+, as Megatraveller had. Jump range
might be capped at J6, but more efficient bubble formation and maintainence could be
a thing (not that my games see TL17 tech).