Reminds me of the 'Humanoids' from '50's sci-fi.... -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 9/17/15, Craig Berry <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015, 4:29 PM In any society which grants "personhood" to strong AIs and leaves them free to innovate, they will very quickly transcend human control and indeed understanding. One assumes they will face ethical issues regarding treatment of their creators. On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Jim Vassilakos <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah, the problem is that if sophont rights apply to AIs, then once you create one, you're limited in what you can do with it, but, of course, this will vary quite a bit according to the society. I was thinking that the write-up should be fleshed out a bit more in this department. Obviously, you could program an AI/WAP to really like its job, whether its prostitution, trash collection, or military (orc armies, I suppose, might fall under the last category). But there is not only the issue of their happiness in whatever capacity they are serving but also the issues regarding the right to eventually know the truth of their virtual existence (right of non-beguilement), freedom to grow beyond their original programming (right of self-determination), and the right to participate in the larger society (right of self-expression). If anyone wants to add any to this list, feel free. Once again, not all societies will go along with this, and for those that do, it may take some time for these sorts of values to win out over what otherwise appears to be naked self-interest in the part of the VIPs and biological sophonts. I could imagine there being a version of PETA devoted to freeing the orcs, as it were. Actually, might make for an interesting scenario. ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@travellercentral.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://archives.simplelists.com -- Craig Berry (http://google.com/+CraigBerry) "Eternity is in love with the productions of time." - William Blake ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@travellercentral.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=EwREIRgLK8vaUEhNlnoNdSGKwnjoID8a