Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Jim Vassilakos (14 Sep 2015 23:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Kurt Feltenberger (15 Sep 2015 04:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) William Ewing (15 Sep 2015 04:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Kenneth Barns (15 Sep 2015 05:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Kenneth Barns (16 Sep 2015 07:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Richard Aiken (15 Sep 2015 23:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Phil Pugliese (16 Sep 2015 08:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Jeffrey Schwartz (15 Sep 2015 15:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Bruce Johnson (15 Sep 2015 15:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Bruce Johnson (15 Sep 2015 18:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Jeffrey Schwartz (15 Sep 2015 19:12 UTC)
Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Rob O'Connor (16 Sep 2015 08:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Kenneth Barns (16 Sep 2015 09:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences(long) Rob O'Connor (17 Sep 2015 07:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences(long) Kenneth Barns (17 Sep 2015 09:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences(long) Rob O'Connor (18 Sep 2015 10:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences(long) Andrew Long (18 Sep 2015 16:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences(long) Bruce Johnson (17 Sep 2015 16:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) shadow@xxxxxx (17 Sep 2015 23:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Jim Vassilakos (17 Sep 2015 23:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Jim Vassilakos (18 Sep 2015 04:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Richard Aiken (18 Sep 2015 05:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Kenneth Barns (18 Sep 2015 06:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Phil Pugliese (18 Sep 2015 07:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Bruce Johnson (18 Sep 2015 15:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Phil Pugliese (18 Sep 2015 23:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Craig Berry (18 Sep 2015 23:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Jim Vassilakos (19 Sep 2015 00:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Bruce Johnson (19 Sep 2015 00:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Craig Berry (19 Sep 2015 01:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Richard Aiken (19 Sep 2015 06:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Bruce Johnson (19 Sep 2015 18:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its SocialConsequences (long) Jim Vassilakos (19 Sep 2015 22:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Re: Virtuality and its SocialConsequences(long) Rob O'Connor (19 Sep 2015 23:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Bruce Johnson (17 Sep 2015 22:57 UTC)

Re: [TML] Virtuality and its Social Consequences (long) Kurt Feltenberger 15 Sep 2015 04:01 UTC

On 9/14/2015 7:32 PM, Jim Vassilakos wrote:
> Virtuality and its Social Consequences
>
> TL        Virtuality Level
> 8-10      Low
> 11-13    Medium
> 14-15    High
> 17-18    Advanced
> 20+       Ultra
>

Lots of good stuff snipped.  I'm not sure if I agree with how long it
will take to get to the Ultra levels of VR; it seems like it was forced
to conform to the tech levels.  For example, why use wires when an
anti-grav field would do the same thing and would be very similar to the
grav compensators on a ship?

Beyond that, I see this as being very de-humanizing and laid out the way
it is, this could lead to a complete lack of any sort of morality or
social restraint.  I mentioned earlier that VR could be interpreted as
the v-world from Caprica, and this document pretty much confirms that;
just about everything you mentioned was capable there, but with no
surgical interfaces required.

That said, as 21st century me, I don't think the worlds you've described
would be ones I'd like to visit.

Oh...one last thing about the question you raise where people would
think, "is our reality just someone else's virtual reality?", I remember
studying this back in college when I took Philosophy; Epistemology.  I
forget the philosopher who proposed it, but his theory was that this
could all be a dream and we could all be players in someone else's
consciousness.

--
Kurt Feltenberger
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“Before today, I was scared to live, after today, I'm scared I'm not
living enough." - Me