Greg,

About the only thing I can say is that if don't change, everyone will continue to consider you an ignorant buffoon & treat you accordingly...

p.s. Your 'inventive' use of the english language, while somewhat entertaining, has, in the final analysis, been a prime contributor to your failure to convince those whom you needed to convince in order to achieve your goals.

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On Mon, 6/22/15, Greg Chalik <mrg3105@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML]Question
 To: "tml@simplelists.com" <tml@simplelists.com>
 Date: Monday, June 22, 2015, 11:27 PM

 Phil, you should have said you
 are a psychic psychoanalyst.
 DO NOT project your thinking on me. I assume nothing.

 In any case, I'm done with the US military.
 Any organisation that lacks intellectual honesty is not
 worth dealing with.

 I also don't appreciate your use of the English
 language, so I'm done talking with you, 'trash'
 or otherwise.
 Greg

 On 23 June 2015 at
 11:52, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <nobody@simplelists.com>
 wrote:
 This email was sent from yahoo.com which does not allow
 forwarding of emails via email lists. Therefore the
 sender's email address (philpugliese@yahoo.com)
 has been replaced with a dummy one. The original message
 follows:

 Greg, It is you who have assumed the title of
 'know-it-all' thru the various behaviors that
 you've been demonstrating.

 You can't seem to grasp that you have to
 convince/cajole/whatever-it-takes those who have the power
 to 'make or break' your scheme & that treating
 them like idiots & fools will never, ever accomplish
 that.

 Just 'cuz you've busted your butt for X# of years to
 come up w/ '40 pages' means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

 You aren't the 1st one & you won't be the last
 to make that claim.

 How long do you think those colonels would last if they even
 seriously considered (much less accepted &/or promoted)
 every, or even *any* '40 page proposal' submitted by
 any  trash-talking smart-aleck that happens along?

 They &, I imagine, a lot of us here on the TML, have
 seen this all before & maybe even many times before.

 Face it, at least 99% of the time that grandiose claims such
 as yours are made, those claims turn out bogus.

 And that's why they're is just 'tuning' you
 out.

 If your proposal actually does aim to fundamentally change
 (ie; 'turn topsy-turvey') the entire military
 establishment in the USA then you must really 'be on
 something' if you think *anyone* in *any* position of
 authority is going to even give the time of day to such a
 proposal from an unknown 'nobody'!

 You've guaranteed yourself a losing outcome right from
 the get-go & waiting for a new 'cycle' of
 colonels emerge isn't going to change anything.

 They'll going to behave in an identical manner 'cuz
 it would be irrational to do otherwise.

 No matter how 'rational' it might seem to you.

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 On Mon, 6/22/15, Greg Chalik <mrg3105@gmail.com>
 wrote:

  Subject: Re: [TML]Question

  To: "tml@simplelists.com"
 <tml@simplelists.com>

  Date: Monday, June 22, 2015, 5:40 PM

  Phil,

  It is

  you that affixed the label of 'know-it-all'

  to me.

  My actual

  expertise is in very narrow fields of knowledge gained
 over

  36 and 17 years respectively.

  That I rarely

  until now participate in most of the list discussions

  suggest the contrary; I am here to mostly learn, and

  therfore usually keep my mouth shut.

  I asked a

  friend (former journalist) about the accusation of

  arrogance, and he suggested that it is a good ad hominen
 way

  to end an inconvenient argument.

  It doesn't

  matter *what* my 'clients' think. In the first

  instance it matters IF they think at all :-)

  [Call me

  arrogant, I may as well live up yo your label]

  As it happens

  I am also the guy who has found the Ultimate Truth, which
 is

  a different discussion altogether.

  If I was the

  'Gazillion'

   (is a non-existent word often used to mean an
 ridiculously

  or extremely

  large amount of something, or as an exaggeration) person
 to

  have made this claim, there would be NO SUCH PEOPLE.

  I

  don't own a high (16 hands) horse or even a Shetland

  pony, another assumption on your part. You know what they

  say about people who ass u me?

  Now see if

  you can guess whom I am talking about here "...from
 the

  back room in their Ohio repair and

  sales shop in May 1899 they wrote a letter to the

  Smithsonian Institution requesting information and

  publications about [the field of study]. Drawing on the
 work

  of Sir George Cayley, Chanute, Lilienthal, Leonardo da

  Vinci, and Langley, they began their mechanical

  experimentation that year." "Their approach

  to the solution thus differed sharply from more
 experienced

  practitioners of the day", and one problem that
 caused

  failure in experiments by authorities in the field was

  "a value which had been in use for over 100 years
 and

  was part of the accepted equation". "The
 [later]

  tests yielded a trove of valuable data never before known

  and showed

   that the poor [performance] of the initial vehicles was

  entirely due to an

  incorrect value."

  These people

  never graduated from high school, or had any formal

  engineering qualifications, or were ever employed as

  engineers.

  And, speaking

  of missiles (as happens often on this list) whom am I

  describing here, and what invention? "...despite a

  young Winston Churchill praising him for creating
 something

  that could “revolutionise the railway systems of the

  world”, [he]

  never found a buyer for the invention and spent almost
 all

  of his money

  developing it."

  Greg

  On 23 June 2015 at 09:40,

  Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <nobody@simplelists.com>

  wrote:

  This email was sent from yahoo.com which does not allow

  forwarding of emails via email lists. Therefore the

  sender's email address (philpugliese@yahoo.com)

  has been replaced with a dummy one. The original message

  follows:

  Greg, I thought you were going to drop the

  'know-it all' arrogance...

  Well, it's just more of the supremely arrogant,

  condescending drivel that is SOP, anyway.

  You will never get anywhere using this approach.

  The fact that you can't seem to learn from your
 obvious

  mistakes dos not augur well for your chances of

  acceptance.

  Get a clue; it doesn't matter how right *you* *think*

  you are or whether or not you think your behavior is

  appropriate.

  It only matter what the clients that you are soliciting

  think.

  You're only about the gazillionth guy who thinks

  he's found the 'Ultimate Truth(tm)' &
 been

  ignored so get off your high horse & get over it!

  --------------------------------------------

  On Mon, 6/22/15, Greg Chalik

  <mrg3105@gmail.com>

  wrote:

   Subject: Re: [TML]Question

   To: tml@simplelists.com

   Date: Monday, June 22, 2015, 2:53 PM

   Phil,

   I thought you weren't going to respond to anything

  I

   say.

   First off, I know I'm the only guy who had done the

   'shovelling because there was no sign of

   'digging' when I got there, and there still

   isn't anyone 'digging' next to me.

   The world of US Defence my be classified, but its

   deliverables are not invisible. Look up ACV 1.1

   That is, there is no physical evidence to suggest

  anyone

   else has done ANY THING to rectify the $3.5 b oops

   moment.

   I didn't just 'do a study'. In your haste

   with ad hominens towards me you seem to have been hard

  of

   reading.

   Design is more than a study because it requires proof

  of

   concept. Don't ask. Its IP and classified.

   I wasn't talking to 'folks'. These people

  are

   paid to do a job. And I wasn't asking for a
 'leap

  of

   faith' either. Proof of concept means substantial

   evidence is provided that the concept works. It just

  works

   very differently from how these 'folks' would

  like

   it to work. That is tough. 

   Since providing reading advice seems to be in vogue, I

   would suggest you find a book on appropriate use of

  idioms.

   By the way, I have studied warfare for a lot longer

  than

   most colonels because 90% of military officer's
 life

  is

   following administrative procedure, not warfare. And

  even

   when deployed on active operations in theatre, its not

  all

   combat. Most colonels in the USMC have never fired on

  the

   enemy, and NONE have conducted an opposed amphibious

   landing.

   The two officers in question were a pilot and an

   artillery specialists. How much combined arms warfare

   understanding and translating into vehicle design did

  their

   miles provide? 0

   They should have forwarded me to someone else, but

  instead

   they lied.

   I think I have an advantage over them because my

  thinking

   is not limited by many factors I would be happy to

  explain

   to you off list.

   Greg

   On 22/06/2015 11:37

   PM, "Phil Pugliese (via tml list)" <nobody@simplelists.com>

   wrote:

   This

   email was sent from yahoo.com

  which

   does not allow forwarding of emails via email lists.

   Therefore the sender's email address (philpugliese@yahoo.com)

   has been replaced with a dummy one. The original

  message

   follows:

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   On Sun, 6/21/15, Greg Chalik <mrg3105@gmail.com>

   wrote:

    Subject: Re: [TML]Question

    To: "tml@simplelists.com"

   <tml@simplelists.com>

    Date: Sunday, June 21, 2015, 7:41 PM

    Phil,

    <And it just may be that

    the aforesaid 'tude' is why no one at the

  USMC

   will

    listen?

    "OK, all you ignorant god-for-saken fools. I,

  the

    'ONE&ONLY KEEPER

    OF THE TRUTH' have arrived & will now

  enlighten

   you!

    Rejoice, for

    now you won't have to act like brain-damaged

   retarded

    morons anymore. On

     top of that I have years & years of paper

  studies

   to

    back up the

    ultimate wisdom of my assertions!"<

    Thanks for

    that. I'll use it next time :-)

    Actually I

    mostly based my desings on the USMC and some US Army

    manuals.

    Because I was

    aware of the GFC in 2007 and the US DoD was not, I

  based

   my

    design in the first place on the perception that it

  needs

   to

    be affordable (after correspondence with a USAF

  colonel

   who

    wrote a book on the subject).

    There is

    virtually no advanced technology in my design. Most

  of

   the

    'advanced' stuff is in the doctrine, or

   'soft

    ware' if you wish.

    To criticise

    me as being arrogant, you first need to understand

  how

   the

    particular program that I started off performing

  analysis

   on

    came about and developed. You don't know this,

  and

   I

    would say that those who were in charge in 1996

   didn't

    know either. Certainly the GDLS project staff

   didn't

    know. Even my USMC expert knowledge colonel (a 

  marine

    tanker) had to pull the info out of the deeper

  recesses

   of

    his memory.

    I have done

    the 'shovelling', so I can be arrogant to say

  I

   have

    done the work.

    As for paper

    studies, where do you think DoD projects come from?

  Most

   at

    one stage all 'looked good on paper'.

    The USMC has

    been running Analysis of Alternatives studies for

  four

   years

    now, all 'paper studies'.

    You think the

    US Army operational wing colonels have an engineering

    workshop somewhere at Ft Benning they all run down to

   to

    weld up a prototype when they see fit?

   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

   Which only means that you're just another guy

  who's

   done a 'study'.

   Naturally you will think that your baby is the

  'cherry

   on top' but so does everyone else!

   Statements like " I have done the

  'shovelling',

   so I can be arrogant to say I have

    done the work." is guaran-damn-teed to turn off

   whoever you're speaking to 'cuz it implies that

  if

   they weren't so stupid they'd be able to see

  how

   good your baby is already.

   HINT: insulting folks like that is NOT going to get you

  what

   you want.

   Look, you think you're the first

  'know-it-all'

   guy to show up w/ a 'holy grail'?

   GET REAL, anyone w/ any kind of experience has already

  heard

   that claim many, many times & some have been

   'burned' when the bought into it.

   You can't realistically expect anyone to take a
 leap

  of

   faith (drink the kool-aid) just on your say-so. And esp

  not

   when you take the position that everything that person

  has

   learned is WRONG(tm)!

   Besides that, they're just as likely to think that

   they're the one who's knowledge is superior,

  their

   beliefs are valid, & therefore treat you w/ the

  same

   amount of contempt that you display towards them.

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