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Re: [TML]Question Phil Pugliese 22 Jun 2015 23:40 UTC

Greg, I thought you were going to drop the 'know-it all' arrogance...

Well, it's just more of the supremely arrogant, condescending drivel that is SOP, anyway.

You will never get anywhere using this approach.

The fact that you can't seem to learn from your obvious mistakes dos not augur well for your chances of acceptance.

Get a clue; it doesn't matter how right *you* *think* you are or whether or not you think your behavior is appropriate.
It only matter what the clients that you are soliciting think.

You're only about the gazillionth guy who thinks he's found the 'Ultimate Truth(tm)' & been ignored so get off your high horse & get over it!

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On Mon, 6/22/15, Greg Chalik <mrg3105@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML]Question
 To: tml@simplelists.com
 Date: Monday, June 22, 2015, 2:53 PM

 Phil,
 I thought you weren't going to respond to anything I
 say.
 First off, I know I'm the only guy who had done the
 'shovelling because there was no sign of
 'digging' when I got there, and there still
 isn't anyone 'digging' next to me.
 The world of US Defence my be classified, but its
 deliverables are not invisible. Look up ACV 1.1
 That is, there is no physical evidence to suggest anyone
 else has done ANY THING to rectify the $3.5 b oops
 moment.
 I didn't just 'do a study'. In your haste
 with ad hominens towards me you seem to have been hard of
 reading.
 Design is more than a study because it requires proof of
 concept. Don't ask. Its IP and classified.
 I wasn't talking to 'folks'. These people are
 paid to do a job. And I wasn't asking for a 'leap of
 faith' either. Proof of concept means substantial
 evidence is provided that the concept works. It just works
 very differently from how these 'folks' would like
 it to work. That is tough. 
 Since providing reading advice seems to be in vogue, I
 would suggest you find a book on appropriate use of idioms.

 By the way, I have studied warfare for a lot longer than
 most colonels because 90% of military officer's life is
 following administrative procedure, not warfare. And even
 when deployed on active operations in theatre, its not all
 combat. Most colonels in the USMC have never fired on the
 enemy, and NONE have conducted an opposed amphibious
 landing.
 The two officers in question were a pilot and an
 artillery specialists. How much combined arms warfare
 understanding and translating into vehicle design did their
 miles provide? 0

 They should have forwarded me to someone else, but instead
 they lied.
 I think I have an advantage over them because my thinking
 is not limited by many factors I would be happy to explain
 to you off list.
 Greg
 On 22/06/2015 11:37
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 On Sun, 6/21/15, Greg Chalik <mrg3105@gmail.com>
 wrote:

  Subject: Re: [TML]Question

  To: "tml@simplelists.com"
 <tml@simplelists.com>

  Date: Sunday, June 21, 2015, 7:41 PM

  Phil,

  <And it just may be that

  the aforesaid 'tude' is why no one at the USMC
 will

  listen?

  "OK, all you ignorant god-for-saken fools. I, the

  'ONE&ONLY KEEPER

  OF THE TRUTH' have arrived & will now enlighten
 you!

  Rejoice, for

  now you won't have to act like brain-damaged
 retarded

  morons anymore. On

   top of that I have years & years of paper studies
 to

  back up the

  ultimate wisdom of my assertions!"<

  Thanks for

  that. I'll use it next time :-)

  Actually I

  mostly based my desings on the USMC and some US Army

  manuals.

  Because I was

  aware of the GFC in 2007 and the US DoD was not, I based
 my

  design in the first place on the perception that it needs
 to

  be affordable (after correspondence with a USAF colonel
 who

  wrote a book on the subject).

  There is

  virtually no advanced technology in my design. Most of
 the

  'advanced' stuff is in the doctrine, or
 'soft

  ware' if you wish.

  To criticise

  me as being arrogant, you first need to understand how
 the

  particular program that I started off performing analysis
 on

  came about and developed. You don't know this, and
 I

  would say that those who were in charge in 1996
 didn't

  know either. Certainly the GDLS project staff
 didn't

  know. Even my USMC expert knowledge colonel (a  marine

  tanker) had to pull the info out of the deeper recesses
 of

  his memory.

  I have done

  the 'shovelling', so I can be arrogant to say I
 have

  done the work.

  As for paper

  studies, where do you think DoD projects come from? Most
 at

  one stage all 'looked good on paper'.

  The USMC has

  been running Analysis of Alternatives studies for four
 years

  now, all 'paper studies'.

  You think the

  US Army operational wing colonels have an engineering

  workshop somewhere at Ft Benning they all run down to
 to

  weld up a prototype when they see fit?

 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 Which only means that you're just another guy who's
 done a 'study'.

 Naturally you will think that your baby is the 'cherry
 on top' but so does everyone else!

 Statements like " I have done the 'shovelling',
 so I can be arrogant to say I have

  done the work." is guaran-damn-teed to turn off
 whoever you're speaking to 'cuz it implies that if
 they weren't so stupid they'd be able to see how
 good your baby is already.

 HINT: insulting folks like that is NOT going to get you what
 you want.

 Look, you think you're the first 'know-it-all'
 guy to show up w/ a 'holy grail'?

 GET REAL, anyone w/ any kind of experience has already heard
 that claim many, many times & some have been
 'burned' when the bought into it.

 You can't realistically expect anyone to take a leap of
 faith (drink the kool-aid) just on your say-so. And esp not
 when you take the position that everything that person has
 learned is WRONG(tm)!

 Besides that, they're just as likely to think that
 they're the one who's knowledge is superior, their
 beliefs are valid, & therefore treat you w/ the same
 amount of contempt that you display towards them.

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