[TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Jim Vassilakos (12 Jan 2025 04:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (12 Jan 2025 04:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers J. Michael Looney (12 Jan 2025 05:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (14 Jan 2025 06:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin (12 Jan 2025 07:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (14 Jan 2025 07:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Timothy Collinson (12 Jan 2025 12:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Timothy Collinson (12 Jan 2025 12:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Timothy Collinson (12 Jan 2025 12:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alan Peery (12 Jan 2025 21:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (12 Jan 2025 19:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (14 Jan 2025 07:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (21 Jan 2025 00:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (22 Jan 2025 02:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (22 Jan 2025 08:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (22 Jan 2025 08:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (22 Jan 2025 10:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (22 Jan 2025 14:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (22 Jan 2025 17:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin (26 Jan 2025 08:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (26 Jan 2025 08:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (26 Jan 2025 11:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Timothy Collinson (26 Jan 2025 15:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers James Catchpole (26 Jan 2025 15:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin (28 Jan 2025 12:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers James Catchpole (28 Jan 2025 14:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (28 Jan 2025 17:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin (29 Jan 2025 12:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Jeff Zeitlin (26 Jan 2025 17:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (26 Jan 2025 19:27 UTC)

Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin 29 Jan 2025 12:08 UTC

On 29/1/25 03:53, Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml
list) wrote:
> I recall reading an article stating that, shortly after WWI, the
> British army decided that 'Brigadiers' would no longer be considered
> general officers & therefore the rank of 'Brigadier General' was
> changed to simply 'Brigadier'.
> Still one rank above a 'Colonel' & one rank below a 'Major General'
> just not a general officer anymore.
> The US, otoh, has kept the 'Brigadier General' rank intact.
>
>
That explains why RAF air commodore was a flag rank from its inception. 
At the time of the RAF's establishment, they knocked off army ranks
wholesale, including brigadier-_general_.  Come 1 August 1919, RAF
brigadier-generals became RAF air commodores, as flag officers.

The RM created brigadier-general as a rank in 1913, abolishing it in
1921.  The British Army also abolished the rank/appointment of
brigadier-general at the same time.  The RAF did nothing to the rank of
air commodore.

The Army restored brigadier as a substantive rank (rather than a
temporary appointment, whereafter the former holder reverted to their
substantive rank) in 1947, while the RM took another 50 years.

The difference was in the shoulder boards - a UK brigadier-general wore
a crossed sword and baton (indicating junior flag rank), while a plain
brigadier wore a crown and three pips (senior field rank).

Alex