[TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Jim Vassilakos
(12 Jan 2025 04:17 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
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J. Michael Looney
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
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Alex Goodwin
(12 Jan 2025 07:31 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Timothy Collinson
(12 Jan 2025 12:22 UTC)
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Timothy Collinson
(12 Jan 2025 12:24 UTC)
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Timothy Collinson
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Alan Peery
(12 Jan 2025 21:26 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(12 Jan 2025 19:49 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
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Evyn MacDude
(21 Jan 2025 00:57 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(22 Jan 2025 02:55 UTC)
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Evyn MacDude
(22 Jan 2025 08:09 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(22 Jan 2025 08:15 UTC)
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Evyn MacDude
(22 Jan 2025 10:07 UTC)
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kaladorn@xxxxxx
(22 Jan 2025 14:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Phil Pugliese
(22 Jan 2025 17:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Alex Goodwin
(26 Jan 2025 08:11 UTC)
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Evyn MacDude
(26 Jan 2025 08:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Phil Pugliese
(26 Jan 2025 11:38 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Timothy Collinson
(26 Jan 2025 15:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
James Catchpole
(26 Jan 2025 15:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin (28 Jan 2025 12:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
James Catchpole
(28 Jan 2025 14:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Phil Pugliese
(28 Jan 2025 17:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Alex Goodwin
(29 Jan 2025 12:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Jeff Zeitlin
(26 Jan 2025 17:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers
Evyn MacDude
(26 Jan 2025 19:27 UTC)
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On 27/1/25 01:25, Timothy Collinson - timothy.collinson at port.ac.uk (via tml list) wrote: > > > What happened to all the talk of resurrecting the 'one star' rank > of 'Commodore'. > > > I *think* (I may be out of date) that they're alive and well in the > Royal Navy. > > At least we had such a Commodore in church until his death a few years > back. He was a great one for long distance swims in the Solent (and > the English Channel) and regard wearing a wetsuit in such waters as > for 'wimps'. Indeed he called the wimpsuits. He had an entire > extension built on his house to house his puzzle collection and iirc > was a member of the Magic Circle. (I can't help feeling there's a > character write up in there just waiting to get out!) > > I *thought* I learned that they were exactly that, the 'captain' in > charge of a bunch of captains in a fleet, but now I think about it, I > may be misremembering and they may have had more permanent roles as > istr there were uniform changes for them and even flags. Another q I > could probably ask my Dad - he was supposed to come to lunch today > (actually, he was supposed to come last week) but is struggling to get > over some bug or other. > > Of course, I vaguely understand the title of commodore to be alive and > well in your average yacht club as well, but I assume it's an honorary > thing! > > tc > Collision, I think, in the British Army, "Brigadier" wasn't a substantive rank until 1947(?), previously being an appointment conferred upon senior colonels. After that, it became the senior _field-grade_ rank, not the junior _flag_ rank. Thus, Alistar Gordon Lethbridge-Stuart of Doctor Who fame was a substantive brigadier from his time with the Third Doctor onwards, not an appointed colonel. In the RM, it remained an appointment, not a substantive rank until 1997. Likewise, commodore, likewise having previously been an appointment conferred upon senior post (ie, literal ranking of) captains, became a substantive RN rank at the same time. Like the British Army, brigadier/commodore are the senior _field/senior_ rank, not the junior _flag_ rank. In the RAF, it has been a substantive, flag-officer, rank, since 1919. As a result of this, IM Golden Age TU, IN commodores are senior officers while their IM counterparts (brigadiers) are flag officers. It amused me. I think in most other Commonwealth-military tradition nations, brigadier/(air) commodore are, and always have been, substantive flag ranks, but I wouldn't swear to that. Alex