[TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Jim Vassilakos (12 Jan 2025 04:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (12 Jan 2025 04:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers J. Michael Looney (12 Jan 2025 05:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (14 Jan 2025 06:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin (12 Jan 2025 07:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (14 Jan 2025 07:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Timothy Collinson (12 Jan 2025 12:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Timothy Collinson (12 Jan 2025 12:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Timothy Collinson (12 Jan 2025 12:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alan Peery (12 Jan 2025 21:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (12 Jan 2025 19:49 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (14 Jan 2025 07:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (21 Jan 2025 00:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (22 Jan 2025 02:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (22 Jan 2025 08:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (22 Jan 2025 08:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (22 Jan 2025 10:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers kaladorn@xxxxxx (22 Jan 2025 14:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (22 Jan 2025 17:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin (26 Jan 2025 08:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (26 Jan 2025 08:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (26 Jan 2025 11:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Timothy Collinson (26 Jan 2025 15:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers James Catchpole (26 Jan 2025 15:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin (28 Jan 2025 12:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers James Catchpole (28 Jan 2025 14:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Phil Pugliese (28 Jan 2025 17:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Alex Goodwin (29 Jan 2025 12:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Jeff Zeitlin (26 Jan 2025 17:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers Evyn MacDude (26 Jan 2025 19:27 UTC)

Re: [TML] Typical ranks for JAG officers J. Michael Looney 12 Jan 2025 05:25 UTC

In the US army, they aren't assigned to line units.  They tend to be
O-3 to O-6, with very few, if any, generals.

On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 10:34 PM Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at
yahoo.com (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
>
> Considering that, here in the USA, a lawyer would need seven years of college, I can't see a JAG lawyer starting lower than O-3.
> Of course there would be lower ranks assigned to a JAG office, just as a civilian legal office doesn't have only lawyers employed there.
> IMO, the best place to slot a JAG lawyer & his staff would be a direct assignment under the XO.
> Not positive but I've never heard of a JAG office permanently assigned aboard a US Navy ship. Not even a CVN.
> Most likely the assignment would be to a JAG office assigned to the shore-based segment of a Fleet HQ.
>
>
> On Saturday, January 11, 2025 at 09:18:21 PM MST, Jim Vassilakos - jim.vassilakos at gmail.com (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
>
>
> According to Element Cruisers, page 46, "Specialists such as legal advisors are normally commissioned but, although they are technically 'line' officers whilst serving aboard a warship, they are not part of the chain of command unless the captain chooses to assign them additional duties." There's also a chart showing the chain of command, with a logistics officer (a lieutenant), an assistant logistics officer (a sublieutenant), three administrative officers (ensigns), and 16+ additional personnel (enlisted).
>
> The problem is that I have no military experience, and I have no idea how JAG works in the real world. My only "knowledge" (if one can call it that) is from TV shows and movies where the JAG officers are usually portrayed as being lieutenants and above. But my sense from page 46 of Element Cruisers is that a ship's lawyer would be reporting to the logistics officer, a lieutenant, and so how does it work with a lieutenant reporting to a lieutenant?
>
> I briefly considered making the lawyer a warrant officer, but then I realized the naval rank table doesn't include warrant officers. It's petty officers all the way from E4 to E9. I suppose I could make the lawyer an ensign.
>
> Also, I was wondering if the Imperial military would have a unified JAG corps, or if each branch (Navy, Army, Marine) would have separate JAG schools.
>
> It's a minor detail, but I'm curious what you all think.
>
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