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Richard Aiken
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Bruce Johnson
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Bruce Johnson
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Phil Pugliese
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Bruce Johnson
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Kelly St. Clair
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Richard Aiken
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Craig Berry
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Kurt Feltenberger
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Richard Aiken
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Kelly St. Clair
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Craig Berry
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Jeffrey Schwartz
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Bruce Johnson
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Jeffrey Schwartz
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tmr0195@xxxxxx
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Craig Berry
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Anthony Jackson
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Kelly St. Clair
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Jim Vassilakos
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Craig Berry
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Kelly St. Clair
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Craig Berry
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Ewan Quibell
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Richard Aiken
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Bruce Johnson
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Jeffrey Schwartz
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Kelly St. Clair
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Bruce Johnson
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Greg Nokes
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Craig Berry
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Jim Vassilakos
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Kurt Feltenberger
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The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral? Phil Pugliese (23 May 2015 06:18 UTC)
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Jim Vassilakos
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Richard Aiken
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Bruce Johnson
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Kelly St. Clair
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Richard Aiken
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Knapp
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Bruce Johnson
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Richard Aiken
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Postmark
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Richard Aiken
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Knapp
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Phil Pugliese
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Phil Pugliese
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================================================================================================ What I esp liked about the story was I found the saga compelling enough that I impatiently looked for the next installment to see what would happen next. I found the ending, while surprising, to be very much an outcome that could occur in RL. I found the characters, although some seemed a little too weird, to be very similar to some of the folks I knew or had known &, of course, I found the 'far flung star empire' setting to be very appealling. Don't know if you recall but I usually sent off an email after just about every installment regarding inconsistencies but you almost always were able to explain them away by pointing out text w/i the chapters that I had either forgotten or hadn't fully grasped. In the end, since it had been posted as a serial, I was surprised when it all wrapped up but I still remember it as being a very 'travelleresque' tale. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 5/22/15, Jim Vassilakos <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [TML] What is the moral? To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Friday, May 22, 2015, 6:15 PM Regarding the Harrison Chapters: Thanks to Phil for his kind comments. I started this novel back in high school and finished it while I was in college, and although I was somewhat proud of it at the time, it wasn’t long before I began to regard it as being mostly garbage. There are numerous problems with it, so many that I indefinitely delayed doing a rewrite. Part of the problem is that I was pantsing it (as in writing from the seat of my pants sans outline) all the way through, so the plot is a bit twisted to the point of occasionally being irritatingly absurd. The other problem is that my conception of technology was grounded in what I imagined to be possible back in the 1980s and early 90s, and for whatever reason, I wasn’t able to imagine... well, cellphones, just as one example. When you get into the details of future technology, you find that they really drive what is possible as well as what’s inevitable in terms of establishing the setting. It’s sort of frustrating actually, because looking back in retrospect, I had enough knowledge that I should have been able to craft a really interesting story with some important themes. After all, I knew about Moore’s Law. I knew that data storage and CPU cycles were getting cheaper every year. I knew that cameras were getting smaller and that everything was becoming connected through networks. So why couldn’t I imagine a world where governments have their citizens under constant surveillance? Actually, the issue of privacy and surveillance did enter into the novel in one of the early chapters, but I didn't work through the obvious implications. Once the technology is there, it will be used by whoever has access to it, and there will be profound social ramifications. The whole point of science fiction is that we are supposed to be exploring these ideas before they become a reality. Instead, we seem to be busy fighting Zhodanis or Klingons or the dark side of the Force. In any case, I sort of feel like the novel was a failure mainly because I didn’t explore the most obvious moral issue that was sitting there right in front of me. For whatever reason, I couldn’t see it. It’s wasn't so much a failure of imagination as simply a failure of logic. For those who are interested even after this long, self-flagellating rant, some kind person put it online here: http://www.coris.org.uk/jdc/RPG/Fiction/Harrison/index.html =======================================================================