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Doug Grimes
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Richard Aiken
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Bruce Johnson
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Bruce Johnson
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Phil Pugliese
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Bruce Johnson
(19 May 2015 17:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Kelly St. Clair
(19 May 2015 22:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Richard Aiken
(20 May 2015 15:28 UTC)
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Craig Berry
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Kurt Feltenberger
(20 May 2015 22:38 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(20 May 2015 22:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Kelly St. Clair
(20 May 2015 23:16 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(20 May 2015 23:18 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(21 May 2015 18:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Bruce Johnson
(21 May 2015 20:05 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(21 May 2015 20:21 UTC)
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tmr0195@xxxxxx
(21 May 2015 20:27 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Craig Berry
(21 May 2015 20:57 UTC)
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Anthony Jackson
(21 May 2015 21:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Kelly St. Clair
(21 May 2015 22:25 UTC)
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Jim Vassilakos
(21 May 2015 23:10 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(21 May 2015 23:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Kelly St. Clair
(21 May 2015 23:20 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(21 May 2015 23:24 UTC)
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Ewan Quibell
(22 May 2015 09:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Richard Aiken
(22 May 2015 06:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Bruce Johnson
(21 May 2015 23:29 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(22 May 2015 13:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Knapp
(22 May 2015 14:37 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Kelly St. Clair
(22 May 2015 17:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Bruce Johnson
(22 May 2015 17:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral? Greg Nokes (22 May 2015 17:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Craig Berry
(22 May 2015 18:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Jim Vassilakos
(23 May 2015 01:15 UTC)
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Kurt Feltenberger
(23 May 2015 01:45 UTC)
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The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Phil Pugliese
(23 May 2015 06:18 UTC)
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Jim Vassilakos
(24 May 2015 04:59 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(24 May 2015 08:04 UTC)
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Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Bruce Johnson
(24 May 2015 17:14 UTC)
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Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Kelly St. Clair
(24 May 2015 21:00 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(25 May 2015 06:28 UTC)
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Knapp
(25 May 2015 20:30 UTC)
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Re: The Harrison Chapters was Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Bruce Johnson
(25 May 2015 22:17 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(26 May 2015 10:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Postmark
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Richard Aiken
(23 May 2015 06:56 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Knapp
(23 May 2015 22:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Phil Pugliese
(24 May 2015 00:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] What is the moral?
Phil Pugliese
(22 May 2015 07:05 UTC)
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On May 22, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote: > > >> On May 22, 2015, at 10:01 AM, Kelly St. Clair <xxxxxx@efn.org> wrote: >> >> My gut feeling is that stories designed to deliver a Moral Lesson unto the players are, by their nature, rather fixed and railroady - not good adventures. There's also the risk that one's players will not appreciate/agree with the intended moral, or with being preached at in general. (Some have a particular antipathy to such lessons being embedded in their entertainment, something that is supposed to be for /them/ - it is an unwelcome imposition, like commercials.) > > Kelly just said what I was thinking, only more clearly. > > Remember: an RPG adventure is NOT a story; it’a a framework wherein stories are created collaboratively. If you, as the GM wish to impose a Moral on them, it’s got to be done much more subtly, and in response to the players actions, not the path the GM has ordained. > > On a broader scale, you can always use standard tropes <http://tvtropes.org> but you cannot really force the issue. A lot of the stories that we have told around our traveller table were about (mostly) good folks doing bad things trying to make the world a better place and keep some cash in their pocket. The best campaign that I ran was based on the Hard Times book. They did a lot of morally questionable things, and had a lot of hard choices based on the “The Cold Equations”. Save 10 people, and let a colony die, or let everyone die in jump space. I tend to shy away from “criminals in space” and more use the “good people doing what they have to” idea I guess. ;-)