The TAS program, operated by DriveThru, has some pretty restrictive
license terms. It does allow you to use (some of) the Mongoose assets
(text, images). I'm not sure I'd be comfortable releasing products
under those terms, even without the requirement to use Illustrator.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 1:02 AM Ethan McKinney <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Illustrator's not that rare, and you can buy a one-month subscription. You can open the .AI, make covers for all of your products, export them all as PDFs, and you're good to go.
>
> Having followed some of the AD&D licensing drama, it seems that you don't have to give Mongoose a cut of anything, unless you're specifically using their art, copying the text of their rules, or otherwise using their assets. You can always publish "compatible with" products without violating copyright or trademark.
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 8:27 PM kaladorn at gmail.com (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
>>
>> It begins. As I expected.
>>
>> I think 'till the end of the month' is ridiculous. But they don't care.
>>
>> And giving out Adobe Illustrator when most of us won't have that is ridiculous.
>>
>> I'm glad I'm done with them.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 1:34 AM Timothy Collinson - timothy.collinson at port.ac.uk (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> While I'm here, rattling everyone's cage, I thought you all might be interested in a comm from Mongoose yesterday evening.
>>>
>>> Because the TAS programme is going to extend to classic Traveller now that Mongoose have the rights, I (we) can no longer use the classic Traveller style trim for my March Harrier Publishing front covers.  One or two others do similar but I think I far and away have the most titles.
>>>
>>> The reason for my doing that and not going with a more Mongoose style of cover was purely pragmatic in not having and/or not being able to afford artwork.  Plus nostalgia and 'recognition' of course.
>>>
>>> I (we) have till the end of the month to change the covers or the titles get pulled from DriveThru so as not to spoil things for those who want to TAS with classic.
>>>
>>> For me as MHP, that's a couple of dozen titles or more.  (I'm somewhat surprised to find just how much I've done in the last few years).  Credit to Steve E and Megan R who've written four of the titles.
>>>
>>> Mongoose have offered a couple of sample (templates?) to help, but they are in .AI format which I can't read so I've no idea what help they might be.  I've asked for something else which is more usable.  (I assume it's Adobe Illustrator, but they're working at a different level to me who just has Word and 'save to PDF'') (see previous email on trvellermap.)
>>>
>>> So, I guess that means one of the following:
>>> - going into a dive about the work/cost/difficulties/lack of interest and doing nothing and the titles dying and maybe just starting from anything new
>>> (Buy them now while you can if you've been meaning to!)
>>>
>>> - trying to source artwork in quite a short time frame and working out how I'll pay later.  (Not helped by the fact that I can do nothing for a few days while I tackle TravCon and recover from TravCon and am in a busy teaching period at work).  I won't use AI art.
>>>
>>> - not trying to adopt a Mongoose art style and trying to come up with something else that's simple but allowed but losing any 'recogntion' or attarctiveness.  I'm not a designer either so this could be tricky.
>>>
>>> - converting all my adventures to classic Traveller so I can just keep the covers.  That would take lots of work and for characters wouldn't be hard - but tedious because of quantity - but all the tasks and critters and vehicles/ships etc make me weep just thinking about it and I'm not that interested.  (I'm very much a 'on to the next thing' kind if guy and surprised I even finish anything, much less want to revisit it.)
>>>
>>> (Ironically I was called out a few years back by another publisher when I included CT stats as an appendix to one adventure and had to remove them.  If you have that PDF, you have a rarity.  I think I sold half a dozen or so before changing the file.)
>>>
>>> - giving up with TAS and switching to Cepheus which, I suppose would have the advantage of a bit more of a cut of the cover price (DriveThru take a wodge and Mongoose another wodge) *assuming* switching doesn't reduce sales such as they are.  BUT see above on all the conversion AND then I couldn't use Charted Space which wouldn't matter much for some adventures but would make others very difficult to convert and be quite a sadness.
>>>
>>> - deciding that perhaps I've had a good run and now is the time to do something else with the time I have remaining and take a break from it all entirely.  I'm tired and this is more tempting than I might have thought.  I'm sure Jeff can find other writers for FT and it would certainly reduce friction with my wife if my collection went to the Science Fiction Library in Liverpool or something.
>>>
>>>
>>> <roll a d6>
>>>
>>> tc
>>>
>>>
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