Alien Clay Timothy Collinson (22 Sep 2024 15:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay James Catchpole (22 Sep 2024 16:57 UTC)
Canons [was: Re: [TML] Alien Clay] Timothy Collinson (22 Sep 2024 20:33 UTC)
Re: Canons [was: Re: [TML] Alien Clay] James Catchpole (22 Sep 2024 20:54 UTC)
Re: Canons [was: Re: [TML] Alien Clay] kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Sep 2024 09:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Sep 2024 08:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Timothy Collinson (23 Sep 2024 18:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Sep 2024 04:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Richard Aiken (24 Sep 2024 14:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Richard Aiken (24 Sep 2024 14:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (24 Sep 2024 15:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Rupert Boleyn (24 Sep 2024 20:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (25 Sep 2024 01:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Sep 2024 23:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (26 Sep 2024 00:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Richard Aiken (26 Sep 2024 01:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Brett Kruger (26 Sep 2024 01:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (26 Sep 2024 15:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (26 Sep 2024 15:35 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Richard Aiken (26 Sep 2024 16:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Richard Aiken (26 Sep 2024 16:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (26 Sep 2024 16:52 UTC)
(missing)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Rupert Boleyn (26 Sep 2024 21:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (26 Sep 2024 23:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (27 Sep 2024 00:23 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (27 Sep 2024 00:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Rupert Boleyn (27 Sep 2024 00:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (27 Sep 2024 14:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Sep 2024 00:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (28 Sep 2024 01:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Rupert Boleyn (26 Sep 2024 21:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (26 Sep 2024 23:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (27 Sep 2024 00:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Sep 2024 23:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (28 Sep 2024 01:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (26 Sep 2024 23:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Rupert Boleyn (27 Sep 2024 00:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (27 Sep 2024 00:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Rupert Boleyn (27 Sep 2024 00:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (26 Sep 2024 23:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (27 Sep 2024 00:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Rupert Boleyn (27 Sep 2024 00:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Sep 2024 23:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alien Clay Phil Pugliese (28 Sep 2024 01:14 UTC)

Re: [TML] Alien Clay Rupert Boleyn 27 Sep 2024 00:21 UTC


On 27Sept2024 1118, kaladorn at gmail.com (via tml list) wrote:

> Well, since I don't consider the 3I as a real thing, as I don't think
> it's model would work for very long, I don't see it falling apart
> exactly as they wrote it, but I also don't see it surviving anywhere
> near the length of time they decided it would be. I can't really say
> which is less likely, but both seem very likely to me - that they got to
> that size and could manage it for any real scale and the fact that it
> would eventually fail from one action  - both are unlikely.

I think the humans of the Traveller universe are not the same as us -
they seem far less prone to taking governments and societies apart than
we are - the major humans empires of the TU are much bigger (in terms of
travel times and information lag times) than anything we've ever
managed, but last many times longer between upheavals. Heck, the Vargr
are called 'unstable', and they managed a sector-sized state that lasted
centuries!

--
Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>