For clarification:

The Seneschal is viewed as essentially the noble's "right-hand man", the
guy who handles the day-to-day running of the fief. He's not necessarily in
command of any household troops, but he'd be able to call on them or order
their deployment (under a militarily-skilled commander) if needed.

The "C-suite" in US corporate parlance is the group of policy-making
executives whose titles are often "Chief *** Officer" - CEO (Chief
Executive Officer), CFO (Chief Financial Officer), CIO (Chief Information
Officer), COO (Chief Operating Officer), etc.

"Sub-C-Suite" Executives are the people who report directly to the C-Suite
officers and who are in charge of implementing the policies that the
C-Suite sets. (That is, the CIO's admin assistant is not a "sub-C-suite
executive"; s/he doesn't implement policy, though s/he might be the one
that collates and digests all the paperwork that the executives generate as
part of their reporting to the C-suite-er.)

On Thu, 9 May 2024 08:08:10 +0100, Timothy Collinson wrote:

>On Tue, 7 May 2024, 23:43 Jeff Zeitlin - editor at freelancetraveller.com
>(via tml list), <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
>
>> ...for characters who are either...
>>
>> * Seneschal for a titled and enfeoffed noble
>>
>> * Sub-C-Suite Executives for a large corporation
>>
>
>
>Ah, my favorite kind of question as I'm often doing this kind of thing.
>Just the other day I wanted an antiques dealer...
>
>This is just the moment to pluck the three Spica career books off the shelf.
>
>For the "sub C suite" (not terminology I was familiar with but I assume
>Google has set me straight) I would start with Corporate Citizen (Career
>Book 1) which seems perfect, but if you wanted a tiny bit more high
>powered, you could look at Politician in Book 2.  Or alternatively, look at
>the Secretary track of the Assistant career in Book 3.
>
>For the seneschal I would want to know whether you saw them as more Combat
>oriented (perhaps a la Barrayar in Bujold's Vorkosigan novels) or butler as
>in Wodehouse's Jeeves.  Either way, the Assistant career might again suit
>nicely with its three specialisations of Bodyguard, Secretary and Steward.
>For the former, you could pick a military career of course.  For the
>latter, if you wanted to be more outre, you could try Companion or Slave
>(both also in Book 3).
>
>If you were to force me to stick to the Core Rulebook (as ever, I'm talking
>Mongoose or my head will explode at all the options), I'd look at:
>
>Seneschal - bodyguard: Army: Infantry
>Seneschal - valet: Merchant Marine (for lots of Steward skill [1])
>(I'm quite tempted to offer Prisoner or Psion as interesting backstory or
>present 'power' kind of options!)  (Indeed, you could probably make  case
>for Jeeves having some kind of psionic ability).
>
>You could also consider a 'degraded' Noble: Administrator career, perhaps
>replacing Leadership or Advocate etc with Steward or Admin.  I'm also
>wondering if such a role should have good 'Persuade' skill even if it's
>very subtle.
>
>You might also want to take a look at Book 8: Dilettante for some noble
>options that again might just possibly suit.  It also has stuff on nobles
>paying and maintaining servants.  (I should perhaps mention that my own
>Second Scions' Society has all sorts of retainer options that might help
>flesh out a role although not actual career paths for them).
>
>In Book 8: Agent there is Corporate: Bodyguard which might work nicely (or
>how about the Duellist: Champion from Compendium 1?!) and, perhaps
>obviously, Security: Bodyguard in Mercenary.
>
>Management: Governess in Alien Module 1: Aslan?
>
>Much further afield is Guard: Bodyguard in Netherall.
>
>
>
>
>Sub C Suite - Citizen: Corporate is the obvious option but depending on how
>'sub' they were or what precise skills you wanted, they might have come
>from several of the careers before switching to Citizen.
>
>Book 9: Robot has Worker: Citizen
>
>Further afield, there is a Citizen: Corporate in Alien Module 2: Vargr,
>Worker: Bureaucratic in Alien Module 3: Darrians, Government: Administation
>in Alien Module 4: Zhodani, Citizen: Bureaucrat in Outer Veil, Office
>Worker in Starfarer's Gazette 1 and Civilian: Government (or Upper or
>Middle) in Tinker, Tailor, Psion, Spy.
>
>FWIW, there's a Core Citizen: Corporate in 2300AD if you want a comparison.
>
>Don't forget, of course, that for fictional purposes, fish out of water
>options may make for more interesting (or less stereotyped) possibilities,
>so I'm not suggesting any of the above should be straitjackets.  Also,
>consider some of the jobs I've done in my life: dental assistant, taxi
>driver, environmental scientist , deckhand, messenger, shop supervisor, oh,
>and I've been a librarian for a bit too...
>
>Don't know if that helps
>
>tc
>
>
>[1] hmmm, not as much as I thought from memory.  You can get as much from
>Citizen or Entertainer.  I could see the latter being a reasonable option
>for a valet type as well.
>
>>
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