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Re: [TML] Arresting Naval Officers Alex Goodwin 01 Dec 2023 05:54 UTC

On 1/12/23 06:00, Jim Vassilakos - jim.vassilakos at gmail.com (via tml
list) wrote:
> <snip>
>
> Alex, I agree with everything you wrote in your last post. A high
> noble and particularly the world's reigning noble would at a minimum
> be treated like the ambassador from a country one cannot afford to irk.
>
> Jeffrey, I agree with you about the planetary noble probably getting
> involved in major disputes of this sort between the Navy and the local
> government.
>
> <snip>

Jim, my summation on who gets those benefits was a little different than
what you understood - my fault for not explaining it clearly enough.

On Jewell itself, at least the following 3I nobles would have their
persons and accompanying huscarles sacrosanct de jure from local silly
buggers c 1123, as Jewell falls in their demenses:

Strephon (Emperor) - Jewell being an Imperial world;

Norris (Archduke Deneb) - Jewell being in the Domain of Deneb;

Elane (Duchess Mora, Spinward Marches sector duchess) - Jewell being in
the SM;

Norris (Duke Regina) - Per Travwiki, the world answers to the Duke of
Regina, so His Badass-Moustacheness is it;

On top of those 4 distinct legal persons, the petit duke and count
mentioned on Travwiki would also count (knights not, IIRC, being counted
as high nobles).

Your summation of "a minimum be treated like the ambassador from a
country one cannot afford to irk" is bang on, that country being the
Third Imperium.

Other high nobles would _not_ be sacrosanct de jure.

Fishing a pair of reprobates out of my first TU and skipping forward to
the 1140s, we have:

Danaarin, Duke of the Five Sisters (who swore his enlistment oath to
Paulo III, not Strephon), and his younger identical twin brother,
Mitchell (he anglicised his first name upon joining the IN, before
rising to senior flag rank), now Duke of the Islands.  Mitchell was
elevated after masterminding the bridging of Reft sector and beginning
the Imperialisation of the Islands cluster - he's still trying to work
out if his elevation was reward, or punishment.

On Jewell itself, neither of that pair would be immune from local
detention.  It may not be a _good idea_ for the Jewell government to do
so, but that's de facto.

Question for the list - could _other_ high nobles (the ones whose
demesne doesn't encompass a given world) be declared _persona non grata_
by that world?

Additional question for the list - how does the above differ during a
subsector, sector or domain-level conclave/Moot/pissup?

Alex