Could someone check my logic, please? Alex Goodwin (28 Jan 2023 20:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Could someone check my logic, please? Tom Rux (28 Jan 2023 22:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Could someone check my logic, please? Rupert Boleyn (28 Jan 2023 23:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Could someone check my logic, please? Alex Goodwin (29 Jan 2023 08:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Could someone check my logic, please? Rupert Boleyn (29 Jan 2023 23:25 UTC)

Re: [TML] Could someone check my logic, please? Rupert Boleyn 29 Jan 2023 23:25 UTC


On 29Jan2023 2125, Alex Goodwin - alex.goodwin at multitel.com.au (via
tml list) wrote:
> Rupert,
>
> Good point, and thanks for pulling me up on it.
>
>
> I'll first start with pure-play answers - assuming the aging GTL stays
> constant over time.
>
> TL6 - median age at death 68 years (95th percentile 67-68 years)
>
> TL7 - median age at death 70.5 years (95th percentile 70-70.5 years)
>
> TL8 - median age at death 72.0 years (95th percentile 72-72.5 years)
>
>
> Per G4: High Tech, TL6 landed approx 1880, TL7 landed approx 1940, and
> TL8 approx 1980.  I'll add TL9 in 2050 to (attempt to) bolt OTL onto
> at least one ISWTL (this probably makes the conclusions for those
> aging after 2050 the shakiest).
>
> Born 1880 - median age at death 69 years (95th percentile 68-69 years)
>
> Born 1890 - median age at death 72.5 years (95th percentile 72.5 -
> 73.0 years)
>
> Born 1940 - median age at death 79.5 years (95th percentile 79.0 -
> 80.0 years)
>
> Born 1950 - median age at death 79.0 years (95th percentile 78.0 -
> 79.5 years)
>
> Born 1980 - median age at death 83.5 years (95th percentile 82.5 -
> 85.0 years)
>
> Born 1990 - median age at death 90.25 years (95th percentile 89.0 -
> 91.0 years)
>
>
> As G4's aging model does not include infant/child mortality nor sex
> differences, I'm not sure if these figures are directly comparable to
> life expectancy at birth.
>
> Frinstance (from
> https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/xxxxxx@.nsf/0/3CE0381F7CBAB608CA2569DE0024ED6D
> , looking at Australia):
>
> "A male child born at the beginning of the 20th century (1901-1910)
> had a life expectancy at birth of 55.2 years and one born at the end
> (1995-1997) of 75.7 years. For females the figures were 58.8 and 81.4
> years respectively. At age 5 years the life expectancy was 57.9 years
> for males and 60.8 years for females in 1901 and 71.3 and 76.9 years
> respectively in 1995-97."
>
> Going to the 2003 AU life tables
> (https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/xxxxxx@.nsf/DetailsPage/3302.0.55.0012003?OpenDocument
> ), 50 year old men could expect to live another 30.4 years, while 50
> year old women could expect another 34.4 years - 80.4 and 84.4 years,
> respectively.  That's fairly close to my simulated 1950-born cohort
> above, and some of the difference could be explained by me using the
> median and the ABS using the mean.
>
>
> So, to answer your question:
>
> Pureplay TL7 Terrans can expect to die of old age after 70.5 years,
> while their TL8 counterparts can expect 72 years.
>
> Under the timeline I used above, someone born in 1950 could expect to
> die of old age after 79 years, while according to the ABS data I
> found, they could expect to die of old age between 80.5 years (men)
> and 84.5 years (women).

> Alex

That certainly seems close enough for gaming purposes. I asked because
the Classic and Mongoose Traveller ageing rules do not match reality
well (character die too early), so using them would've got some odd results.

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Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>