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Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Kenneth Barns (27 Oct 2014 19:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Kenneth Barns (28 Oct 2014 07:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Kenneth Barns (29 Oct 2014 00:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives tmr0195@xxxxxx (29 Oct 2014 05:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Richard Aiken (05 Nov 2014 02:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Phil Pugliese (05 Nov 2014 19:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Ian Whitchurch (05 Nov 2014 21:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Ian Whitchurch (05 Nov 2014 22:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Phil Pugliese (06 Nov 2014 00:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives tmr0195@xxxxxx (05 Nov 2014 22:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Bruce Johnson (05 Nov 2014 23:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Phil Pugliese (06 Nov 2014 00:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Phil Pugliese (06 Nov 2014 00:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Kelly St. Clair (06 Nov 2014 01:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Richard Aiken (06 Nov 2014 09:00 UTC)
[TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Alex Goodwin (06 Nov 2014 12:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Ian Whitchurch (06 Nov 2014 21:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Bruce Johnson (06 Nov 2014 21:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Ian Whitchurch (06 Nov 2014 22:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Freelance Traveller (07 Nov 2014 01:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Ian Whitchurch (07 Nov 2014 02:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Ian Whitchurch (07 Nov 2014 07:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Bruce Johnson (07 Nov 2014 16:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Richard Aiken (08 Nov 2014 01:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Multiple economically-interesting worlds in system Freelance Traveller (06 Nov 2014 13:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Phil Pugliese (06 Nov 2014 13:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Richard Aiken (09 Nov 2014 08:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Phil Pugliese (09 Nov 2014 18:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Ian Whitchurch (10 Nov 2014 02:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Richard Aiken (10 Nov 2014 02:47 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Kelly St. Clair (10 Nov 2014 03:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Richard Aiken (10 Nov 2014 06:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Bruce Johnson (10 Nov 2014 18:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Richard Aiken (10 Nov 2014 22:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Richard Aiken (10 Nov 2014 06:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Thomas Jones-Low (10 Nov 2014 13:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Phil Pugliese (10 Nov 2014 22:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Bruce Johnson (10 Nov 2014 23:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Phil Pugliese (05 Nov 2014 19:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives tmr0195@xxxxxx (05 Nov 2014 06:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives tmr0195@xxxxxx (05 Nov 2014 17:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Grimmund (05 Nov 2014 20:29 UTC)
Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Eris Reddoch (05 Nov 2014 21:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Reflections on LBB2v2 versus HGv2 for drives Grimmund 05 Nov 2014 20:29 UTC

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:01 AM,  <xxxxxx@comcast.net> wrote:

Note the addition of [total] :

>> If you design and build a house, [total] cost is (design cost x 1) +
>> (build cost x 1)
>
> The (design cost x 1) + (build cost x 1) I feel would be
> (architect's fee x 1) + (shipyard build cost x).

Different language, same idea.

Note that if you buy a licensed design, you pay only the license fee
(instead of an architect's fee to develop your own design) + build
cost.

> This is where I appear to agree with you, unfortunately
> the majority of members on a couple of other forums
> feel that only the (build cost x 1) applies.

Dpeends on how you parse it, and where you are in the process.

Build cost= build cost
architect's fee = architect's fee.

If you start from scratch, and want a custom ship, you're going to
have to pay both, at some point.

If you already have a design, all you pay is the build fee to build a ship.

If you go through mom's papers, and find a complete design package for
a starship, YOUR cost for the design is zero- mom already has it.

If someone in your band of travellers has Naval Architect-2, and
designs a ship for the party, all you pay is the build fee.

The architect's fee and the build cost are separate expenses, paid at
separate times, to separate entities.  You have to write TWO checks.
You have to pay the architect before they release the plans.

>  An outsider who wants to build one hull gets (Cr100 fee
> for the plans) + (1 x build cost).

 Not if *I* paid for the design.

If the *shipyard* offers a standard design for 100cr, rock on.  If
someone wants a copy of YOUR custom design, they have to negotiate
that with YOU, or possibly your architect, although I would expect
that sort of design work would be covered by some sort of proprietary
arrangement, or a substantial reduction of the fee if the architect
intends to continue selling it to other customers.

Dan

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