Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Timothy Collinson
(24 Sep 2014 21:55 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Ian Whitchurch
(24 Sep 2014 22:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Evyn MacDude
(25 Sep 2014 00:28 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Timothy Collinson
(25 Sep 2014 07:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Evyn MacDude
(25 Sep 2014 00:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Timothy Collinson
(25 Sep 2014 07:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Tim
(25 Sep 2014 02:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Timothy Collinson
(25 Sep 2014 18:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Timothy Collinson
(25 Sep 2014 18:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Bruce Johnson
(25 Sep 2014 19:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Phil Pugliese
(25 Sep 2014 19:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Tim
(30 Sep 2014 04:28 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Timothy Collinson
(01 Oct 2014 19:07 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Bruce Johnson
(01 Oct 2014 20:48 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Mikko Parviainen
(02 Oct 2014 09:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14) Tim (02 Oct 2014 04:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Space Stations (Supplement 14)
Richard Aiken
(02 Oct 2014 06:19 UTC)
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On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 08:07:01PM +0100, Timothy Collinson wrote: > Of course, the newspapers love those stories where a broom cupboard > (closet) has been turned into an 'apartment' in London and selling > for some ridiculous price. Yes, I do know someone who rented such a space while in London. Room for one single bed with one large shelf about a metre above the bed. > There's a table for non-orbital stations, orbital stations, geosync and > geostationary. I'm working on a geosync one so the line reads: > M-Drive percentage: 0.75 > M-Drive cost (MCr/ton) 0.5 > Thrust 0.5G > (page 5) Ahh, thrust 0.5G. For station-keeping purposes that's a staggeringly enormous acceleration. To put it in perspective, Earth-centered geostationary satellites usually have delta-V needs less than 60 m/s per year. That is, an average acceleration of 0.0000002 gees. It's that high mainly to keep the satellite in a fixed sky position relative to Earth so that ground-based antennas don't need any steering at all. In practice it's done in shorter bursts of greater acceleration, with peak accelerations varying between 0.0001 and 0.01 gees. The ISS in much lower orbit is periodically re-boosted to account for traces of atmospheric drag, typically with peak acceleration on the order of 0.003 gees and lasting a few minutes. To put it another way, the thrusters given in the book would be capable of carrying out a year's worth of station-keeping maneuvers in about ten seconds. It could totally flip its orbit and go the opposite direction in less than 20 minutes, take up residence around the Moon within hours, or move to Jupiter in days. That sounds a little excessive as a bare minimum design feature for a space station. The power plant seems likewise ludicrously large. I don't know about that particular design system, but 50 MW/dton seems like a typical sort of average for high-tech designs across a few Traveller materials that list power outputs. At 15 million dtons that would put the power output at about 0.8 petawatts. That's about 50 times the total power consumption of human civilization today, or about 50000 times as much per person. I'm not saying that it's wrong, just that it's extremely large to the point where I'm having trouble thinking up how even a small fraction of it would be used up in the routine operations of the station. I guess one answer might be "it isn't", and 99.99% of the power plant goes unused 99.99% of the time. The remaining 0.01% of the time might be periodic drills to ensure that it actually works at full capacity for some unspecified emergency. Maybe vaporizing a moon or two that have inconvenient orbits ;-) - Tim