Destroyer tonnage...
Peter Berghold
(15 Sep 2014 02:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage...
Phil Pugliese
(15 Sep 2014 04:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage...
Evyn MacDude
(15 Sep 2014 04:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage...
Ian Whitchurch
(16 Sep 2014 01:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage...
Evyn MacDude
(16 Sep 2014 02:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Grimmund (15 Sep 2014 13:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage...
Ian Whitchurch
(15 Sep 2014 14:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage...
Peter Berghold
(15 Sep 2014 18:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage...
Ian Whitchurch
(15 Sep 2014 22:19 UTC)
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On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Evyn MacDude <evyn.macdude@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Peter Berghold <salty.cowdawg@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The SpruCans were 563 fee long with a 52 foot beam. The crew was (when I >> was aboard) 15 officers and 225 enlisted crew. When I plugged the >> displacement (8000 tons) into MT rules and tried to put a ship together the >> numbers just didn't add up. >> >> >> Thoughts? > > The 1st thing I saw it that you were trying to use the displacement of > water for the displacement number. I would divide by 14 to get it's > Traveller displacement. which is about 600 dtons. > > -- > Evyn That won't be right, either. Ship displacement is the weight of the water the ship displaces when afloat, which is a measurement of mass, not a measurement of the volume of the ship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_(ship) Modern displacement tonnage is a measure of the ship's mass, not volume. Spitballing some numbers, I get about ~3000dtons for the Spruance: http://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=USS-Spruance-DD963 gives dimensions of ength: 563ft (171.60m) Beam: 55ft (16.76m) Draught: 20ft (6.10m) and a crew of 393 officers and ratings. Side view here: http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/ships/destroyers-us/7849/view/uss_dd_979_conolly__spruance_class_destroyer_/ meters, l*w*d Draught, 6 meters. If I understand correctly, this is waterline to low point of keel: 172*17*6 Another 5 meters to the deck, above the waterline, estimated: 172*17*5 And the superstructure, estimated (this is a total SWAG on my part) 120*14*6 Check the photo here and add your own adjustments http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/US_Navy_030321-N-6141B-006_The_Spruance_class_destroyer_USS_Briscoe_%28DD_977%29_underway.jpg totals a little over 42,000 cubic meters, divided by 14.25 is just under 3000 traveller dtons. Thes, this treats the ship as a regular solid body rather than as a streamlined body, and does not consider volume lost to streamlining. Dan -- "Any sufficiently advanced parody is indistinguishable from a genuine kook." -Alan Morgan