Destroyer tonnage... Peter Berghold (15 Sep 2014 02:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Phil Pugliese (15 Sep 2014 04:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Evyn MacDude (15 Sep 2014 04:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Ian Whitchurch (16 Sep 2014 01:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Evyn MacDude (16 Sep 2014 02:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Grimmund (15 Sep 2014 13:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Ian Whitchurch (15 Sep 2014 14:41 UTC)
Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Peter Berghold (15 Sep 2014 18:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Ian Whitchurch (15 Sep 2014 22:19 UTC)

Re: [TML] Destroyer tonnage... Phil Pugliese 15 Sep 2014 04:16 UTC

Here's some number from the USN in WWII.
(split manning #'s indicate peacetime/wartime)

'Wickes' class DD (1000dT standard, 1400 full load)  complement 153

'Clemson' class DD (1000dT standard, 1400 full load)  complement 153

'Farragut' class DD (1400dT standard, 2200 full load)  complement 160/250

'Porter' class DD (1900dT standard, 2800 full load)  complement 194/294

'Allen M. Sumner' class DD (2200dT standard, 3500 full load)  complement 350

'Atlanta' class CL (6000dT standard, 8000 full load)  complement 623/810

'New Orleans' class CA (10,000dT standard, 13,000 full load)  complement 700/1200

'Baltimore' class CA (13,500dT standard, 17,000 full load)  complement 1100/1700

'Alaska' class CB {not BC!} (27,500dT standard, 34,000 full load)  complement 1370/2251

'New York' class BB (27,000dT standard, 32,000 full load)  complement 1314/1530

'North Carolina' class BB (35,000dT standard, 47,000 full load)  complement 1880/2339

'Iowa' class BB (45,000dT standard, 57,000 full load)  complement 1921/2850

'Yorktown' class CV (20,000dT standard, 25,500 full load)  complement 1889/2919

'Essex' class CV (27,000dT standard, 33,000 full load)  complement 3448

'Midway' class CVB (45,000dT standard, 60,000 full load)  complement 2510/4104

I think it could be said that "They really packed 'em in" back then.

p.s. The 'Atlanta' class CL was 540' by 53' so it's the closest to the 'Spruance' dimension-wise.

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On Sun, 9/14/14, Peter Berghold <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: [TML] Destroyer tonnage...
 To: "tml" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com>
 Date: Sunday, September 14, 2014, 7:12 PM

 what are peoples
 thoughts on getting the same sort of performance and crew
 size between wet navy ships and star ships.
 I was putting together some specs for a ship
 similar in nature to the Spruance Class destroyers (I was on
 the USS Cushing, a SpruCan) and got the impression right
 away that a 1 to 1 mapping was not going to
 work.
 The SpruCans were 563 fee long with a 52 foot
 beam.  The crew was (when I was aboard) 15 officers and 225
 enlisted crew.  When I plugged the displacement (8000 tons)
  into MT rules and tried to put a ship together the numbers
 just didn't add up.

 Thoughts?

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 			Peter L.
 Berghold                       xxxxxx@gmail.com
 http://blog.berghold.net

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