Some thoughts on Pronouns
Mike Looney
(04 Sep 2014 19:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Kurt Feltenberger
(04 Sep 2014 19:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
carlos.web@xxxxxx
(04 Sep 2014 19:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Evyn MacDude
(04 Sep 2014 21:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Mike Looney
(04 Sep 2014 20:02 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Kurt Feltenberger
(04 Sep 2014 22:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Grimmund
(05 Sep 2014 01:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Grimmund
(04 Sep 2014 20:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Kurt Feltenberger
(04 Sep 2014 22:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
greg caires
(04 Sep 2014 19:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Jeffrey Schwartz
(04 Sep 2014 20:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Mike Looney
(04 Sep 2014 20:03 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Jeffrey Schwartz
(04 Sep 2014 19:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns Freelance Traveller (04 Sep 2014 20:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Andrew Long
(04 Sep 2014 20:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Freelance Traveller
(04 Sep 2014 20:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
carlos.web@xxxxxx
(04 Sep 2014 20:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Some thoughts on Pronouns
Andrea Vallance
(05 Sep 2014 22:25 UTC)
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2014 14:14:08 -0500, you wrote to Freelance Traveller: >I posted this to one of the face book Traveller groups, so you may have >seen it. I'm looking for as much input on this as possible. >Semi random question about pronouns. I'm in the process of doing a >weapon and vehicle book. For Reasons, I don't want to use the English >generic "he/him/his". >I have, at this point what I think are two primary options. >1) use she/her/hers (which given that lead example character is a female >human makes some sense) or >use Spivak LambdaMOO pronouns. This does have the force of history >behind it, given it was made for gaming with. Any thoughts? >https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spivak_pronoun My personal preference, accepting your Reasons, would be to go with she/her/hers; if your reasons extend to preferring to avoid using English gendered pronouns entirely, I'd say to go with the Elverson rather than the LambdaMOO spivak (only real difference is Elverson "ey" for spivak "e"; the Elverson just looks 'less wrong' to me). I'm not, however, fond of coined pronouns in general, or of forcing the language into shapes contrary to its natural evolution-to-date, and would suggest that re-examining Reasons to see if they're that important would be a Good Idea. I do know that in his Honorverse, David Weber tends to use unspecified-gender pronouns to match the gender of the viewpoint character - that is, male characters will say/think he/him/his, while female characters will say/think she/her/hers. -- Jeff Zeitlin, Editor Freelance Traveller The Electronic Fan-Supported Traveller® Fanzine and Resource xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com http://www.freelancetraveller.com http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/ ®Traveller is a registered trademark of Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of the trademark in this notice and in the referenced materials is not intended to infringe or devalue the trademark. Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following enterprises for hosting services: CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net) The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)