I once read an article about how an american smuggled some blueprints out of the UK thus greatly advancing the pace of the Industrial Revolution in the USA... -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 9/1/14, Ian Whitchurch <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [TML] Some more thoughts on TU system development vs countries on Earth To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Monday, September 1, 2014, 7:41 PM Industrial-scale intellectual property theft was also one of the ways that the USA industrialised. Its been a theory put forward by Doug Berry among others that the Vilani respect for IP rights is part of why technology advance is so slow in and across the Third Imperium. On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Greg Chalik <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: No, 1996. That was the year the US Congress passed the anti-industrial espionage Bill that prevented the Japanese companies from siphoning off the results of federally-funded research. Until than many (most) Japanese corporate research offices in the US were conveniently located close to major university and college campuses. In China industrialisation had a brief start, but was killed by the 'if it works, we don't need anything new' culture. In Europe this started in mid-17th century after the separation of Church and state, so the culture couldn't kill it (literally, see Inquisition), although many innovators were still persecuted. When Japan, which had 'industrialised' in the 1860s by copying anything and everything produced in Europe, was in 1996 forced to invest in own research facilities and try to change the way culture influenced basic education, that was its true start of industrialisation. Greg On 28 August 2014 04:53, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote: On Aug 27, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Greg Chalik <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: > Japan didn't industrialize until 1996, so not sure about 'speed of change' > > Do you perhaps mean 1896 instead? This was 40 years after the Treaty of Kanagawa, a time period where Japan went from an agrarian TL2 backwater to a TL4, nearly TL5 world power capable of defeating one of the world’s largest navies. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@travellercentral.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://archives.simplelists.com ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@travellercentral.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://archives.simplelists.com ----- The Traveller Mailing List Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml Report problems to xxxxxx@travellercentral.com To unsubscribe from this list please goto http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=EwREIRgLK8vaUEhNlnoNdSGKwnjoID8a
