-------------------------------------------- On Sun, 8/31/14, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: Subsec Dukes at the Sector capital [was Re: [TML] expected ship traffic] To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Sunday, August 31, 2014, 4:32 PM On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 4:19 AM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote: --------------------------------------------On Sat, 8/30/14, Richard Aiken <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: Subsec Dukes at the Sector capital [was Re: [TML] expected ship traffic] To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Saturday, August 30, 2014, 8:39 PM Medieval France represents a land where the major vassal families largely succeeded in The Unification Dance; medieval Germany represents a land where they failed miserably. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ True, but, ironically, France was also where the monarch became virtually absolute while the noble's(vassal's) power declined greatly. Yep. But the Imperium doesn't have a third major power block (e.g. the Catholic Church) which the monarch can use as a counterweight to the nobles and then betray. Of course the germans never became truly unified till Hitler came along. I'd say Bismark did a pretty good job at unification. All the independent city-states and principalities left over from the Middle Ages pretty much went away on his watch. Hitler did gather all the German-speaking countries into a single state, but then there came those seventy-some years of (effectively) Soviet rule . . . ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, but don't forget about the Austrian Empire, which was a major power thru WWI & about 25% of it's pop was german. I suppose that now, what w/ the EU & all, it could be said that, finally, all the germans are united. Loosely, though. ===================================================================================== One can easily imagine stretches of the Imperium (particularly along the various borders) with an equally tangled history. Richard Aiken ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah esp w/ all the vargrs, incl the ArchDuke, in Antares. SJGames also had some aslans, along w/ an aslan subsector duke in the spinward marches in their variant 3I. =================================================================