expected ship traffic
Timothy Collinson
(22 Aug 2014 16:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(22 Aug 2014 19:02 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(22 Aug 2014 19:50 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(22 Aug 2014 20:11 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(22 Aug 2014 20:46 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(22 Aug 2014 20:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(22 Aug 2014 21:32 UTC)
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Ian Whitchurch
(22 Aug 2014 21:34 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(22 Aug 2014 22:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(22 Aug 2014 23:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(23 Aug 2014 08:29 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2014 00:30 UTC)
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Greg Chalik
(23 Aug 2014 02:26 UTC)
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Joseph Hallare
(23 Aug 2014 06:10 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(23 Aug 2014 23:41 UTC)
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Greg Chalik
(24 Aug 2014 00:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2014 14:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(24 Aug 2014 22:32 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(24 Aug 2014 22:49 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2014 23:16 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2014 22:56 UTC)
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Ian Whitchurch
(25 Aug 2014 00:23 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 05:37 UTC)
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Greg Chalik
(25 Aug 2014 03:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(25 Aug 2014 03:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Greg Chalik
(25 Aug 2014 04:03 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(25 Aug 2014 04:13 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Greg Chalik
(25 Aug 2014 04:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 05:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(25 Aug 2014 06:24 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 14:40 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(26 Aug 2014 00:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(26 Aug 2014 00:25 UTC)
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RE: [TML] expected ship traffic
Anthony Jackson
(26 Aug 2014 21:45 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(26 Aug 2014 21:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(26 Aug 2014 04:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(26 Aug 2014 05:30 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(26 Aug 2014 13:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic Phil Pugliese (26 Aug 2014 15:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(27 Aug 2014 04:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(27 Aug 2014 20:02 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Bruce Johnson
(25 Aug 2014 14:28 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 14:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Bruce Johnson
(25 Aug 2014 16:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Craig Berry
(25 Aug 2014 16:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 19:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Craig Berry
(25 Aug 2014 19:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 20:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Kelly St. Clair
(25 Aug 2014 19:57 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 20:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Craig Berry
(25 Aug 2014 20:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 21:30 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(25 Aug 2014 20:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 21:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(26 Aug 2014 00:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Greg Chalik
(26 Aug 2014 00:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(26 Aug 2014 00:29 UTC)
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Ian Whitchurch
(26 Aug 2014 00:45 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(25 Aug 2014 16:48 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(25 Aug 2014 17:04 UTC)
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David Shaw
(25 Aug 2014 18:16 UTC)
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Bruce Johnson
(25 Aug 2014 20:17 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 21:09 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(25 Aug 2014 21:27 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 21:45 UTC)
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Kurt Feltenberger
(25 Aug 2014 21:50 UTC)
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Kurt Feltenberger
(25 Aug 2014 21:55 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(26 Aug 2014 13:35 UTC)
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John Geoffrey
(26 Aug 2014 14:19 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(26 Aug 2014 14:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
John Geoffrey
(26 Aug 2014 14:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(27 Aug 2014 02:35 UTC)
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Kurt Feltenberger
(27 Aug 2014 02:41 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(27 Aug 2014 13:03 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(27 Aug 2014 19:33 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(27 Aug 2014 20:18 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(27 Aug 2014 21:57 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(28 Aug 2014 13:06 UTC)
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Ian Whitchurch
(28 Aug 2014 13:32 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(28 Aug 2014 14:04 UTC)
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John Geoffrey
(28 Aug 2014 14:15 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(28 Aug 2014 14:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(29 Aug 2014 07:15 UTC)
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Greg Chalik
(28 Aug 2014 20:27 UTC)
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Kelly St. Clair
(27 Aug 2014 05:18 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(27 Aug 2014 19:46 UTC)
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Timothy Collinson
(29 Aug 2014 19:29 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 19:00 UTC)
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William Ewing
(27 Aug 2014 20:02 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(27 Aug 2014 20:10 UTC)
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Jeffrey Schwartz
(27 Aug 2014 20:17 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(27 Aug 2014 20:28 UTC)
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Timothy Collinson
(29 Aug 2014 19:51 UTC)
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Andrew Long
(27 Aug 2014 20:52 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(27 Aug 2014 21:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(25 Aug 2014 06:14 UTC)
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Richard Aiken
(24 Aug 2014 06:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(24 Aug 2014 06:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Richard Aiken
(01 Sep 2014 00:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(01 Sep 2014 02:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Richard Aiken
(02 Sep 2014 00:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(02 Sep 2014 00:58 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(24 Aug 2014 07:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Greg Chalik
(24 Aug 2014 08:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(24 Aug 2014 08:44 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2014 15:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
William Ewing
(27 Aug 2014 19:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2014 22:35 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(24 Aug 2014 22:51 UTC)
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Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2014 23:05 UTC)
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Thomas Jones-Low
(22 Aug 2014 20:59 UTC)
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Greg Chalik
(22 Aug 2014 21:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Thomas Jones-Low
(22 Aug 2014 21:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Timothy Collinson
(22 Aug 2014 21:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2014 00:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(24 Aug 2014 15:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(23 Aug 2014 07:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Timothy Collinson
(23 Aug 2014 08:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Kelly St. Clair
(23 Aug 2014 09:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Kelly St. Clair
(23 Aug 2014 09:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Timothy Collinson
(23 Aug 2014 11:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Tim
(23 Aug 2014 11:53 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(23 Aug 2014 23:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Phil Pugliese
(23 Aug 2014 23:45 UTC)
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Freelance Traveller
(27 Aug 2014 22:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Ian Whitchurch
(27 Aug 2014 23:11 UTC)
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Craig Berry
(27 Aug 2014 23:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
John Geoffrey
(28 Aug 2014 12:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] expected ship traffic
Richard Aiken
(29 Aug 2014 13:30 UTC)
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-------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/26/14, Ian Whitchurch <xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [TML] expected ship traffic To: xxxxxx@simplelists.com Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2014, 6:14 AM If you are talking the canon 3I, at TL7-8 present day Earth is at much of the Imperium's tech level. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well, yeah, *but* whereas, in the TU, TL15 (& maybe even 16) could be present on even the most primitive worlds, that's out of the question here on Earth. Reminds me of the three years my family spent living on a remote USAF airbase in Morocco. (the airfield was used as a 'staging' base for B-47's in the event of the BIG ONE, so there was usually a 'flight' of six bombers present that rotated every 30 days) The a/b was about an hours drive inland from Casablanca & once you were very much outside that city you were back in the middle ages until you entered the base. Now, AFAIK, Morocco had little, if any, post-industrial revolution production capability. The 'factories' that I toured looked like they hadn't changed in centuries. Some didn't even have electricity! But when you went into the city (the a/b, of course was totally up-to-date but w/ little, if any, production capability), all of a sudden you found that, in certain areas, you abruptly transitioned from the middle ages to latter 20th century! So how do you classify a situation like that where you have, essentially, just as much access to all the latest technology as anywhere else? In the TU would a world filled w/ the estates of the 'Rich & Famous', used primarily as a vacation 'get-away' location, be classified as what TL? You would arrive & find yourself in a TL15 paradise but w/ *everything* imported! Quite some time ago I began to consider the TL ratings as, basically, a baseline marker that essentially served to indicate how much things would cost since almost *anything* would be avail at the right price. So you could travel to any world & could easily find an enclave w/ TL10+ present (esp if theres an 'A' or 'B' port, definitely if there's a Naval Base). I would expect that on any world, with the usual exceptions for 'special' circumstances of a cultural, religious, etc nature, containing more than a million people, there would be at least one location, even if only around the starport, where you could find such an enclave. Remember that, even in the 'Marches, these planets have been part of the 3I for many centuries & have had interstellar contact for even longer than that. If trade was really at a MegaVolume level wouldn't just about all worlds have been completely saturated w/ TL10+ by now? Esp considering how much more durable hi-tech has become even at our present TL here on Earth? That's a main reason why I advocate for a much lower trade volume than MT does. Heck, even CT's volume may be too high!