A Darker Imperium... Freelance Traveller (17 Aug 2014 23:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Evyn MacDude (18 Aug 2014 05:58 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Jeffrey Schwartz (18 Aug 2014 14:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Phil Pugliese (18 Aug 2014 15:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Bruce Johnson (18 Aug 2014 16:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Jeffrey Schwartz (18 Aug 2014 16:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Bruce Johnson (18 Aug 2014 19:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Jeffrey Schwartz (18 Aug 2014 19:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Craig Berry (18 Aug 2014 19:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Phil Pugliese (18 Aug 2014 16:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Phil Pugliese (18 Aug 2014 17:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Craig Berry (18 Aug 2014 17:57 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Phil Pugliese (18 Aug 2014 18:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Craig Berry (18 Aug 2014 18:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Evyn MacDude (18 Aug 2014 21:22 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Craig Berry (18 Aug 2014 21:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Bruce Johnson (18 Aug 2014 22:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Ian Whitchurch (18 Aug 2014 22:22 UTC)

Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium... Phil Pugliese 18 Aug 2014 16:47 UTC

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On Mon, 8/18/14, Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [TML] A Darker Imperium...
 To: "tml@simplelists.com" <tml@simplelists.com>
 Date: Monday, August 18, 2014, 9:37 AM

 On Aug
 18, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <nobody@simplelists.com>
 wrote:

 > I often look at
 historical
 > precedent here, what did the
 Romans do? Or
 > better yet the East
 Indian Company.
 >
 >
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 >
 > The way the USSR
 'managed' it's various 'clients' &
 potential ones could also be instructive.
 >
 > Of course they
 generally, relatively speaking, of course & w/ some
 exceptions (see Afghanistan, for example) wielded a lighter
 'touch' outside the Warsaw Pact, but even w/i the
 'Pact there were varying degrees of heavy-handedness.

 The old USSR was very much a
 centralized state. This just doesn’t work in an empire
 where information travels at the speed of transport. Evyn
 gets it right; the East India Company is a better model.

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The 'core' of the Imperium could still be quite 'centralized' despite the the comm-lag & the more distant territories could be handled similar to the way the USSR did it;

ie: the amount of 'heavy-handedness' is inversely proportional to distance.

That's not to say that the EIC doesn't provide a good template too.
(or the 'other' 'East India Companies' that other countries set up. weren't the Dutch actually the first?)

And it should also be remembered that the EIC was NOT completely homogeneous.
I've read several sources that state that the problems w/i the Presidency of Bengal were not nearly as bad w/i the other two Presidencies (Bombay & Madras) & that's why the 'Mutiny had little or no impact upon them...
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