[TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Jim Vassilakos
(28 Apr 2022 05:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Richard Aiken
(28 Apr 2022 05:45 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains Kurt Feltenberger (28 Apr 2022 13:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Richard Aiken
(28 Apr 2022 19:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(28 Apr 2022 23:13 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Richard Aiken
(29 Apr 2022 07:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(29 Apr 2022 15:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Jim Vassilakos
(01 May 2022 15:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Jim Vassilakos
(01 May 2022 16:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(02 May 2022 02:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Jim Vassilakos
(02 May 2022 19:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Rupert Boleyn
(02 May 2022 21:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(02 May 2022 21:47 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Thomas RUX
(02 May 2022 22:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Rupert Boleyn
(02 May 2022 22:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(03 May 2022 01:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(03 May 2022 01:03 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(02 May 2022 02:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Timothy Collinson
(04 May 2022 21:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(05 May 2022 00:52 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Timothy Collinson
(06 May 2022 21:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Jim Vassilakos
(29 Apr 2022 14:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(29 Apr 2022 15:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Kurt Feltenberger
(29 Apr 2022 15:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Imperial Navy Chaplains
Phil Pugliese
(29 Apr 2022 15:36 UTC)
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On 4/28/2022 1:01 AM, Jim Vassilakos - jim.vassilakos at gmail.com (via tml list) wrote: > A few questions came up regarding chaplains in the Imperial Navy > stemming from a brief line in "Element Cruisers", page 51: "Chaplains > in the navy are secular, although individuals can belong to any faith > so long as it does not interfere with their duties." Also, there's a > chart that shows the ship's chaplain as being a sublieutenant. > > In the modern U.S. Navy, chaplains tend to hold a higher rank, but it > appears to be purely honorary. Actually, different militaries treat > chaplains quite differently. A Navy Chaplain's rank is not honorary, they are a commissioned officer, specifically they are a staff officer that is not an unrestricted line officer (i.e. one that can hold a combat command). They have to go through generally the same commissioning process as any other officer. As for the comment in Element Cruisers, after reading the specific paragraph in question, I think it was either the author is clueless on how navy ships work, or they were trying very hard to appeal to everyone and failed. What I *think* they meant by "secular" is that the Chaplain doesn't evangelize a specific faith, even their own, but rather ministers to all faiths equally. > > So I have a couple of different questions for the list. First, does > anyone know of any other references to chaplains in the Traveller > literature. Nothing where they might be considered the "good guys", often they were presented as stereotypes of the religious zealot (Divine Intervention/Night of Conquest among others). > All I could find was this one in the book on Element-class cruisers. > Second, what's this bit about Chaplain's being secular? If they're > secular, doesn't that make them counselors rather than chaplains? As I stated above, I think it's extremely poor wordsmithing on the part of the author or they're just trying to be all things to everyone as other parallels come to mind. It would make for difficult living conditions if the chaplain evangelized his personal faith above all others on a ship where among the crew there were a dozen different religions/sects. > Third, would the Imperial Navy have a single standard regarding rank > and insignia, or might it be the case that different fleets handle > these matters differently? Yes. IIRC, this was covered back in the 80s in an issue of Travellers Digest or MT Journal, though your views on the validity may vary. I can't see any sort of organization like the Imperial Navy/Army/Marines having different rules for different areas. -- Kurt Feltenberger xxxxxx@thepaw.org/xxxxxx@yahoo.com “Before today, I was scared to live, after today, I'm scared I'm not living enough." - Me -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com