T5 Sophont List
Donald McKinney
(12 Aug 2014 01:03 UTC)
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Fogbank
Kurt Feltenberger
(12 Aug 2014 12:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 14:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Phil Pugliese
(12 Aug 2014 16:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 16:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Jeffrey Schwartz
(12 Aug 2014 16:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank Phil Pugliese (12 Aug 2014 18:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
shadow@xxxxxx
(12 Aug 2014 16:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 17:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 17:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Jeffrey Schwartz
(12 Aug 2014 19:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
David Shaw
(12 Aug 2014 18:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 20:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Richard Aiken
(13 Aug 2014 08:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 14:57 UTC)
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-------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/12/14, Bruce Johnson <xxxxxx@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> wrote: Subject: Re: [TML] Fogbank To: "xxxxxx@simplelists.com" <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2014, 9:14 AM On Aug 12, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Phil Pugliese (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote: > > I experienced this sort of thing quite a few times over the 30 years that I worked in IT. > > People wouldn't adequately document things &/or would leave & take docs w/ them. > > Even after all such info was supposed to be electronically recorded, it seemed that quite a lot was not. > > Hence, the 'Wheel' had to be re-invented, over & over. IT, as a field in general is horrid at documentation; then again, IT seems to operate as though ‘Uhh, Houston, we have a problem’ as Normal Operating Procedure. I would hope that engineering R&D would work more along the lines of chemistry R&D, where keeping a good, readable notebook is an expected task, particularly in scaling to production processes. On the gripping hand, Oak Ridge may never really gotten out of it’s "Manhattan Project” 24/7 “we’re fighting an existential threat" mindset; that’s a powerful and hard-to-change institutional culture. "Get the job done, never mind the paperwork!" -- Bruce Johnson ===================================================================================== My observation is that, in general, sloppy/laziness seems to have advanced significantly over the course of my life. In all fields. "Get it fixed, NOW!" was the usual phrase I encountered. I remember one time my supervisor wanted some others, I already knew how, to learn a procedure by observation as they would probably have to perform it in the future. He was told, "there's no time (would've taken <5 mins) to get them in here"! I'm not sure if/when they ever learned it! ======================================================================================