T5 Sophont List
Donald McKinney
(12 Aug 2014 01:03 UTC)
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Fogbank
Kurt Feltenberger
(12 Aug 2014 12:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 14:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Phil Pugliese
(12 Aug 2014 16:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 16:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Jeffrey Schwartz
(12 Aug 2014 16:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Phil Pugliese
(12 Aug 2014 18:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank shadow@xxxxxx (12 Aug 2014 16:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 17:25 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 17:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Jeffrey Schwartz
(12 Aug 2014 19:10 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
David Shaw
(12 Aug 2014 18:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 20:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Richard Aiken
(13 Aug 2014 08:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Fogbank
Bruce Johnson
(12 Aug 2014 14:57 UTC)
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On 12 Aug 2014 at 14:29, Bruce Johnson wrote: > What that says to me is that either the original developers of the > stuff were criminally incompetent at documenting their process, > successful production-scale synthesis was entirely due to one line > technician named 'Bubba' who claimed his high success rate was due > to whanging on the production vessel with a baseball bat in just the > right spot exactly 17.5 minutes into the reaction, or (more likely) > all of their lab notebooks are carefully packed away in crate > OR65-91-887/A in Warehouse 51...next to the Ark of the Covenant :-) More likely, it's a case of their documebntation having the *very* common problem of not bothering to state things that were "obvious" or that "everyone knows". All too often, those things are only obvious to folks who went thru the same schools or training. And to someone from a different background, they aren't remotely obvious. George O. Smith's "Venus Equilateral" stories delve into that several times. The most blatant is a couple of guys trying to get an ancient Martian gizmo working. They actually have the service manual for it (and Martian is well enough known that they can read it). But the manual never says what the gizmo is *for*. I'll note that the Service and even technical manuals for my old TRS-80 computers have that same flaw. And it assumes knowledge that Our Heros don't have. Much fun ensues. Classified projects are even more prone than usual to this sort of thing. The WWII development of radar has a classic example that only showed up because the US was sharing things with the UK, The US invented the magnetron tbe (you've got one in your microwave). The Brits couldn't manage to make a working unit from the info the Yanks sent over. The Yanks sent over working tubes. They worked. Then the Brits disassembled them (they were bolted together) to make sure that parts matched. They did. But upon reassembly they didn't work. They sent their parts to the Yanks, who put them togethjer and got a working unit. Which upon being sent back, worked until disassembled. Finally they sent some folks from the US group over. "Everyone knew" (on the US team) that you tightened the bolts really, *really* tight so as to prevent leaks if the tube got justled around. The extra torquing changed the shape of the resonant cavity *just enough* for the tube to work... If you are a closed group and *not* sharing your processes with outsiders, you may never realize that you are leaving out critical steps. Because "everybody knows". Recovering from the Long Night was likely slowed by that sort of thing. Having documentation could make you take longer to recover tech than starting from scratch might. At least with "normal" spread of tech between worlds, it'll show up fairly fast and get hashed out (and hopefuully result in the missing data getting added to the docs). On the other hand it's also not unlikely that the fixes will get propogated by means of training, in which case they'll stay missing from the manuals. ObTrav: Your old ship has passed thru many hands as it slowly "drifted" across several sectors as various folks ran their own trade patterns. It's time for annual maintenance. And the yard has never seen this model of ship before. No problem, you've got complete docs and specs... -- Leonard Erickson (aka shadow) shadow at shadowgard dot com