On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:16:38 -0400, I had written:

>Other interesting past, present, and/or fictional naming patterns:

[big snip]

A couple of comments off-list, and elseforum, plus some rereading of
fiction, leads to this supplement to my previous:

In some parts of Germany, it's not unusual, even today, to refer to
someone not as e.g., "Peter Müller", but instead as "den Müllers ihr
Peter", or "The Müllers' Peter" (literally, "the Müllers [genitive case]
their Peter").

Jews were required to take family names at various times in various
places. The nature of the names taken depended on where and when;
Sefardic Jews took family names much earlier than Ashkenazi Jews. Prior
to the requirement of taking family names, however, it was usual for a
child to be identified as the son of his father, or the daughter of her
mother or father: David ben Moshe, Rachel bat Leah, Sara bat Yosef.
Where two individuals had the same name in this form, it was extended
another generation (David ben Moshe ben Shmuel, David ben Moshe ben
Avram), and in cases where that was still insufficient to distinguish,
an additional identifier was added (David ben Moshe ben Shmuel haKohane
[David, the priest, son of Moses, son of Samuel], David ben Moshe ben
Shmuel haYerushalami [David, the Jerusalemite, son of Moses, son of
Samuel]).

Jao naming (from the Jao Empire books mentioned in the previous post) is
actually a little more complex than indicated; there are two groups of
/kochan/: root /kochan/ and affiliated /kochan/. A member of a root
/kochan/ is named essentially as previously described: personal name
followed by indicators of membership in the kochan and whether from the
main breeding line or a cadet line - Aille /krinnu ava/ Pluthrak is
Aille, member (/krinnu/) of Pluthrak, from the main (/ava/) breeding
line. A member of a cadet breeding line would use /nao/ instead of
/ava/. For members of affiliated /kochan/, the breeding line is not
indicated, but the root /kochan/ to which the individual's /kochan/ is
affiliated is indicated, prefixed by /vau/ - Nath /krinnu/ Tashnat /vau/
Nimmat is Nath, of the /kochan/ Tashnat, affiliated to the root /kochan/
Nimmat. The distinction between root /kochan/ and affiliated /kochan/ is
historical within the story universe, and beyond the scope of this
posting.

It is common for Chinese immigrants to western countries to take a local
'use name' (ostensibly to make it 'easier' for the Westerners), with no
necessary connection between the 'use name' and the Chinese name - so
Hom Chi-Leung might be known as "Ted Hom" in the United States, and may
even take that as a legal name (though it is not mandated). The 'use
name' is NOT treated as a nickname, even if it would normally be so
viewed (e.g., 'Jim Wong' is not a nickname for 'James Wong', if 'Jim
Wong' is the 'use name' of a Chinese immigrant).

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