Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Jim Vassilakos (04 Sep 2021 19:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Peter Vernon (04 Sep 2021 22:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Rupert Boleyn (04 Sep 2021 23:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Kurt Feltenberger (04 Sep 2021 23:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Thomas RUX (04 Sep 2021 23:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Phil Pugliese (05 Sep 2021 00:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Evyn MacDude (05 Sep 2021 00:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Jeff Zeitlin (05 Sep 2021 02:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Timothy Collinson (05 Sep 2021 19:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Timothy Collinson (05 Sep 2021 19:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Jim Vassilakos (06 Sep 2021 19:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Phil Pugliese (06 Sep 2021 20:48 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Jeff Zeitlin (06 Sep 2021 21:36 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Thomas RUX (06 Sep 2021 21:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Ian (06 Sep 2021 22:38 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Evyn MacDude (17 Sep 2021 00:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Timothy Collinson (17 Sep 2021 06:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Ian (17 Sep 2021 07:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Ian (17 Sep 2021 07:32 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions James Catchpole (17 Sep 2021 07:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions David Shaw (17 Sep 2021 10:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Timothy Collinson (17 Sep 2021 11:54 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions David Shaw (17 Sep 2021 12:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Phil Pugliese (17 Sep 2021 15:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Timothy Collinson (17 Sep 2021 20:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions David Shaw (17 Sep 2021 21:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Jeff Zeitlin (17 Sep 2021 23:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Timothy Collinson (18 Sep 2021 15:59 UTC)
RE: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions ewan@xxxxxx (17 Oct 2021 11:25 UTC)
RE: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Thomas RUX (17 Oct 2021 15:27 UTC)
Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Bruce Johnson (06 Sep 2021 21:25 UTC)

Re: [TML] Naval Academy & Officer Commissions Jeff Zeitlin 17 Sep 2021 23:14 UTC

My guess is that in the modern British Army, RN, RAF, RM, for the Heir
Apparent or Heir Presumptive, they're unlikely to go into harm's way,
although if said Heir kicks up enough of a fuss, they might put him in a
not-so-obviously-protected situation, where there is real soldiering to do,
but it's unlikely to be fatal. I do recall that one of HRH's sons actually
did fly choppers in rescue situations (though I think it was civvie-side,
rather than for the Armed Forces).

Basic Training _might_ be a little more deferential than for the
run-of-the-mill grunt, but not too obviously... "Drop and give me twenty!
...Sir."

If they go in with the attitude of seriously wanting to serve, just like
any other citizen, or view it as necessary and appropriate in order to be a
good leader (which the Royals are, even if a large part of their leadership
is symbolic rather than operational), then getting a seriously watered-down
experience would be a Bad Thing, and would lose the respect of those they
are supposed to be serving alongside.

Respect from those who serve does not come to someone who is entitled to
wear the uniform by virtue of some honorary title tied to social rank; it
_does_ come to someone who is so entitled _if_ they are seen to truly be
willing to "get down in the dirt" with those who serve, and thus honor the
uniform they wear. And it doesn't really matter if you get into the Army's
dirt but have a Navy title by association with your royal rank, it's the
fact that you've been "in the dirt" that matters.

Or at least that's my American take on the imagery...

On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:53:47 +0100, Timothy Collinson - timothy.collinson
at port.ac.uk (via tml list) <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote to Freelance
Traveller:

>On Fri, 17 Sep 2021, 08:27 Ian - youngerpliny at cs.com (via tml list), <
>xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote:
>
>> Along those lines there might also be “prestige” military academies in
>> systems where the children of the local elite go to get a degree without
>> any intention of service later, or perhaps followed by a bit of “fake”
>> service, like getting a reserve commission for the status value.
>>
>
>
>Ooooh, yes.  I like this.
>
>I often wonder how much our royals, who do serve to be fair and learn, for
>example how to fly helicopters, really get put in harm's way.  (And how
>much flexibility is made for them over basic training and such)
>
>tc
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