Thanks to RB and BJ for the well reasoned defense of science as a method inre dealing with Covid! Before retiring I used to deal with people every day (the majority of them well educated) and it never ceased to amaze me how many would simply ignore results they didn’t like (the efficacy of vaccination) while embracing those that they did (applying energy to cook a steak)! I’m inclined to think the problem arises at least partly due to the confusion of the scientific method and all the (seemingly similar but completely unrelated) belief systems humans utilize to make sense of the whole mess. Anyway thanks! Ian (And while I’m lobbing about thanks- my regards to everyone on the list for helping keep a game I loved as a teenager interesting and fun with all your posts and, of course, JeffZ and Freelance Traveller!) Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Rupert Boleyn - rupert.boleyn at gmail.com <xxxxxx@simplelists.com> wrote: > > > >> On 03Aug2021 0527, "Bruce Johnson" - johnson at Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU (via tml list) wrote: >> RANT/ >> >> An anti-vaxxer and engineer meet at a bridge across a raging river filled with hungry crocodiles. >> >> Antivaxxer asks the engineer “Is this bridge safe?” >> >> Engineer squints, looks over the bridge, and says “I'd judge it as 98% safe” >> >> Antivaxxer says “Well, in that case, I'll swim across then”… >> >> The vaccine is pretty much 99.99% guaranteed even with the Delta variant, to keep you from being hospitalized or dying. >> >> The breakthrough infection rate seems higher with delta , but unless you have significant co-morbidities, a vaccinated person is very unlikely to get more than a mild illness. >> >> If you have those significant co-morbidities, you are *enormously* more likely to wind up in the hospital with significant illness and/or die. > And without the vaccines your odds of having this happen are worrisomely high. A lot of those anti-vaxxers and 'it's just the old people, so let it run loose' are, I've found, people with co-morbidities who don't realise how bad their odds are because they they're young(-ish) and 'healthy' so they'll be fine. But they're overweight to obese, and/or have high blood pressure, etc... > > Me, I have many risk factors, so I'm very happy that New Zealand seized the opportunity our location and some good fortune gave us. I'm also very happy we didn't (and aren't) listening to the "But the economy!" crowd. > > OpTrav: You know how a lot of people used to hold that plagues of Terran origin couldn't spread the way that they did through the First Imperium? That quarantine measures, etc., would be enacted and would stop it? Yeah, about that... > > -- > Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com> > > ----- > The Traveller Mailing List > Archives at http://archives.simplelists.com/tml > Report problems to xxxxxx@simplelists.com > To unsubscribe from this list please go to http://www.simplelists.com/confirm.php?u=InaaccMKft5iBr2mQk24VAHvjoyuczgt
