Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Jeff Zeitlin
(30 Jul 2021 23:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Phil Pugliese
(30 Jul 2021 23:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork Rupert Boleyn (31 Jul 2021 01:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Graham Donald
(31 Jul 2021 07:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Phil Pugliese
(31 Jul 2021 09:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
David Shaw
(31 Jul 2021 09:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Jeff Rowse
(02 Aug 2021 11:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Rupert Boleyn
(02 Aug 2021 20:22 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
David Shaw
(02 Aug 2021 20:32 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Bruce Johnson
(02 Aug 2021 20:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Andrew Long
(31 Jul 2021 10:16 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Mark Urbin
(31 Jul 2021 15:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Michael Houghton
(01 Aug 2021 19:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Jeffrey Schwartz
(03 Aug 2021 18:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Blue mud, or pie with a fork
Richard Aiken
(10 Aug 2021 16:27 UTC)
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On 31Jul2021 1141, Phil Pugliese - philpugliese at yahoo.com (via tml list) wrote: > When I was working at the local USAF airbase's 'Flight Line' cafeteria a 'Nam vet told me that it was considered very rude to ever show the sole of your foot or footwear. > Also, a book I once read about 'Nam stated that tips were considered vulgar!The author hade a, native, character think to himself, after getting a tip;"Americans are so crude. But what does it matter if one of them is insulting?" I understand that once upon a time tips were considered insulting in the US - they were seen as something one gave unfree people and the destitute. A free man works are a negotiated pay, not for handouts like a beggar. Tipping is something that's very variable over time and place. It was not a thing AT ALL in New Zealand when I grew up. Nowadays you sometimes see a 'tip jar' on a cafe or bar counter, but you don't tip waiters or men staff directly here (though in the 90s in another city tipping attractive young bar-staff in clubs and bars was a thing and made barwork very profitable). You never tipped taxi drivers a decade ago (and they weren't supposed to take them anyway), whereas now they seem happy to 'keep the change' on solid over-payments. That in some places people might find it insulting and react badly to being tipped doesn't surprise me at all. -- Rupert Boleyn <xxxxxx@gmail.com>