Speaking in Tongues: Another Addendum
Jeff Zeitlin
(13 Jun 2021 19:50 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues: Another Addendum
Timothy Collinson
(18 Jun 2021 08:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues: Another Addendum Jeff Zeitlin (18 Jun 2021 23:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues: Another Addendum
Timothy Collinson
(21 Jun 2021 22:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues: Another Addendum
Phil Pugliese
(21 Jun 2021 22:42 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues: Another Addendum
Timothy Collinson
(22 Jun 2021 12:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues: Another Addendum
James Catchpole
(22 Jun 2021 13:04 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues: Another Addendum
Phil Pugliese
(22 Jun 2021 13:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues: Another Addendum
Phil Pugliese
(22 Jun 2021 13:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues:AnotherAddendum
Jonathan Clark
(23 Jun 2021 04:29 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Speaking in Tongues:AnotherAddendum
Phil Pugliese
(23 Jun 2021 13:58 UTC)
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 09:32:44 +0100, Timothy Collinson <xxxxxx@port.ac.uk> wrote: [Quoting me...] >> Briefly venturing away from base ten, we find vestiges of base twelve in >> the terms "dozen" and "gross", representing the first two powers of twelve. >> The term "score" comes indirectly from base-twenty usage (and modern French >> continues to have vestiges of this; numbers larger than twenty are >> described as x-twenties-plus-y). MesoAmerican numbers were written in a >> mixed-base system, using five and twenty as the two bases. The >> pre-decimalization Pound Sterling was divided using bases twenty (twenty >> shillings per pound) and twelve (twelve pence per shilling) both. >Yes, and aren't I glad I *just barely* missed ever having to deal with this. Conversion, as I recall, was 1971 (so I would have had to deal with it for e.g., candy and sports trading card purchases). But the old £sd system had its advantages: it admitted easier calculation of fractions of the pound, because the 240d that made up the pound is evenly divisible by quite a lot of numbers - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 16, 20, 30, 60, 80, 120, and (obviously) 240. So if you were buying something that was 3 for £5, there woudn't have been any rounding-to-the-penny involved, it would have come out exact (£1 13/4). >> One can also use a partially subtractive system, instead of a purely >> additive system: written Roman numerals use this model; one normally does >> not write "five plus four ones" (VIIII) for "nine"; instead, it's "one less >> than ten" (IX). The Roman system only admitted subtracting one instance of >> the previous power of ten from a number; one conventionally wrote >> "ninety-nine" as "XCIX" (ten less than one-hundred, plus one less than ten) >> rather than "IC" (one less than one-hundred). >> > >ah! and that I knew but never knew why and often wondered. > >One can use any of these to give the sort of foreign flavor discussed in >> the original article, without impairing understandability significantly - >> but they can still be enough to cause the sort of difficulty that comes >> with making wrong assumptions... >> > >And presumably everyone's seen the recent meme about Roman numerals: >https://me.me/i/i-cant-remember-what-51-6-and-500-are-in-13639991 I'll bet that the US Marines have little good to say about their 501s... and I'm NOT referring to casual denim wear... ®Traveller is a registered trademark of Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2020. Use of the trademark in this notice and in the referenced materials is not intended to infringe or devalue the trademark. -- Jeff Zeitlin, Editor Freelance Traveller The Electronic Fan-Supported Traveller® Resource xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com http://www.freelancetraveller.com Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following enterprises for hosting services: onCloud/CyberWeb Enterprises (http://www.oncloud.io) The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)