Biospheres and Boodle
Alex Goodwin
(19 Feb 2021 17:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
Timothy Collinson
(19 Feb 2021 17:34 UTC)
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RE: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
ewan@xxxxxx
(19 Feb 2021 20:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
Alex Goodwin
(20 Feb 2021 07:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
Timothy Collinson
(20 Feb 2021 11:44 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle Jeff Zeitlin (20 Feb 2021 15:06 UTC)
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RE: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
ewan@xxxxxx
(20 Feb 2021 17:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
Jeff Zeitlin
(20 Feb 2021 19:46 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
Alex Goodwin
(21 Feb 2021 05:19 UTC)
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RE: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
ewan@xxxxxx
(21 Feb 2021 13:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
Rupert Boleyn
(21 Feb 2021 20:51 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
Jeff Zeitlin
(21 Feb 2021 21:35 UTC)
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RE: [TML] Biospheres and Boodle
ewan@xxxxxx
(20 Feb 2021 15:44 UTC)
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 17:35:35 +1000, Alex Goodwin <xxxxxx@multitel.com.au> wrote: >On 20/2/21 6:21 am, xxxxxx@quibell.org.uk wrote: >>Not sure that mixing economic systems works (i.e. working out the >>mortgage in GT while paying life-support and cargo costs in MgT2). >I was digging out basic comparison gubbins from GT, since I knew I would >need a risk-free rate to build up the overall weighted average cost of >capital (WACC). >>Mortgages in MgT2 work a similar way as the rest of the Traveller i.e. >>you pay 1/240th of the purchase price for 12 months in every year for >>the next 40 years. Total cost of the ship is thus twice the build >>price. This works out at about a 1.8% return on the banks' investment. >>Or a 3.98% mortgage interest rate on repayment terms. MgT2 doesn't >>mention the deposit, which might be why the interest rate is lower. >Thanks for pointing out the disconnect. In GT:FT, the monthly payments >are the same (1/240th of purchase price) but the amount financed is >lower (at most 80% of purchase price), which inflates the debt rate. >Carrying the lower mortgage premium through drops the required return on >equity to 6.96% pa and WACC to 4.58% pa. Actually, I think Ewan got it slightly wrong, here - I distinctly recall from early Traveller that there was a 20% down-payment and then that you did pay 1/240 in each of 480 "monthly" payments, which makes the total purchace price of the ship 220% of list. Whether that carried over into late Traveller (including Mongoose), deponent sayeth naught.