annual (or not) maintenance
Timothy Collinson
(06 Jan 2021 20:20 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Ethan McKinney
(06 Jan 2021 20:33 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Timothy Collinson
(06 Jan 2021 20:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Thomas RUX
(06 Jan 2021 20:39 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Timothy Collinson
(06 Jan 2021 20:54 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Peter Vernon
(06 Jan 2021 21:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Phil Pugliese
(07 Jan 2021 02:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Rupert Boleyn
(07 Jan 2021 06:59 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Phil Pugliese
(07 Jan 2021 16:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Thomas RUX
(07 Jan 2021 00:12 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance Jeff Zeitlin (07 Jan 2021 11:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Phil Pugliese
(07 Jan 2021 16:53 UTC)
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Re: annual (or not)maintenance
Charles Hensley
(08 Jan 2021 05:34 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Re: annual (or not)maintenance
Phil Pugliese
(08 Jan 2021 08:06 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Re: annual (or not)maintenance
Timothy Collinson
(08 Jan 2021 11:00 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Re: annual (ornot)maintenance
Charles Hensley
(09 Jan 2021 17:33 UTC)
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RE: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
ewan@xxxxxx
(10 Jan 2021 01:49 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Timothy Collinson
(10 Jan 2021 17:01 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Kurt Feltenberger
(11 Jan 2021 00:08 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Phil Pugliese
(11 Jan 2021 00:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Phil Pugliese
(11 Jan 2021 12:21 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not) maintenance
Phil Pugliese
(11 Jan 2021 12:35 UTC)
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Cutting Edge = 'Bleeding Edge"?
Phil Pugliese
(11 Jan 2021 12:23 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Cutting Edge = 'Bleeding Edge"?
Cian Witherspoon
(11 Jan 2021 16:48 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Cutting Edge = 'Bleeding Edge"?
Phil Pugliese
(11 Jan 2021 20:11 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
Charles Hensley
(15 Jan 2021 00:09 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
Kurt Feltenberger
(15 Jan 2021 00:43 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
Ethan McKinney
(15 Jan 2021 04:30 UTC)
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RE: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
ewan@xxxxxx
(16 Jan 2021 16:57 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
Timothy Collinson
(16 Jan 2021 17:11 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
Rupert Boleyn
(16 Jan 2021 22:48 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(31 Jan 2021 18:41 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
Timothy Collinson
(02 Feb 2021 09:36 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
kaladorn@xxxxxx
(02 Feb 2021 14:31 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
Timothy Collinson
(02 Feb 2021 17:26 UTC)
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Re: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
Phil Pugliese
(16 Jan 2021 19:19 UTC)
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RE: [TML] annual (or not)maintenance
ewan@xxxxxx
(16 Jan 2021 22:30 UTC)
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On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 20:20:09 +0000, Timothy Collinson <xxxxxx@port.ac.uk> wrote: >Here was a surprise for me. > >I so much have the idea of "annual maintenance" in my head from years of >Traveller that I was surprised to discover in Mongoose (1 and 2) there's no >such thing. Or at least not quite. > >Apparently it's supposed to be monthly, and once a year "should be >performed in a shipyard". Notwithstanding the actual wording, I would hold that this does in fact "match" the classic interpretation of "annual maintenance" vs "routine/regular/monthly maintenance". Specifically, my interpretation of what sort of maintenance (in broad terms, not in detail) is covered by [R/R/M] vs [A] is as follows: [R/R/M] Any maintenance or repairs that can be performed while under way, with parts, materials, and tools that are on hand, and which does not render any area of the ship unusable or uninhabitable for the duration of a jump. This (obviously) excludes work on the Jump Drive or hull, (less obviously) any work that would require inspection/re-certification of the system in question, and may exclude _some_ (but not necessarily all) work on life support, the maneuver drives, weapons (if mounted) and control/computers/sensors - principally work that must be done from outside the hull, or which completely disables essential systems for the duration of the repairs/maintenance. The DGP/MegaTraveller Task Profile would be To Perform Routine/Regular/Monthly maintenance: Routine, [Engineering or Mechanical, INT or DEX], 3 hours Referee: Any mishap has the following cumulative effects: 1. For the next performance of this task: a. increases the difficulty by one level b. increases the time increment by one hour. 2. Incurs a -DM (referee's discretion on value) on most Engineering or Mechanical tasks until this task is performed succesfully. A Success at this task causes the next performance to reset to the above base values. Each additional crew with chosen skill involved gives DM +1 The total time spent on this task is spread out over the entire jump. [A] Any maintenance or repairs that cannot be performed while under way. This specifically includes hull and jump drive work (which must be done at an A or B port), or any work requiring parts, materials, or tools that cannot (for technical/logistical or legal reasons) be kept on hand aboard ship (which may not be done at D or E ports). It also includes any work that would require inspection/re-certification of the system in question (may not be done at D or E port, can be done at C ports only on worlds of TL C+ and POP 8+), and also includes work on essential systems that would require a complete shutdown of the system in question. It also includes "routine" updating of navigation data/"rutters"/"sailing directions"/etc (must be done at A or B port). Often, the reason for the 'canonical' two weeks is to allow for inspection/re-certification. The DGP/MegaTraveller Task Profile would be To perform annual maintenance Difficult, [*Special, **Special], 1 day Referee: DM -1 if at port C-. Any mishap makes the ship unspaceworthy, and the task must be immediately tried again at difficulty FORMIDABLE. *"Skill" to be used is average of Engineering+Mechanical+Electronic; **"Characteristic" is average of INT+DEX. Each additional crew involved with any of listed skills gives DM +1; task may be avoided (automatic success) at A or B ports by hiring out to starport specialists at Cr1,000 for lead engineer, +Cr500 for each assistant; time required if hired out will be 10 days - (1 day per assistant hired) (that is, lead engineer alone, 10 days; lead engineer + 1 assistant, 9 days; lead engineer + 2 assistants, 8 days; etc.). (Cost of hiring out is in addition to normal maintenance cost allocations or port fees.) ®Traveller is a registered trademark of Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2020. Use of the trademark in this notice and in the referenced materials is not intended to infringe or devalue the trademark. -- Jeff Zeitlin, Editor Freelance Traveller The Electronic Fan-Supported Traveller® Resource xxxxxx@freelancetraveller.com http://www.freelancetraveller.com Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following enterprises for hosting services: onCloud/CyberWeb Enterprises (http://www.oncloud.io) The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)