Re: [TML] Re: ISO: Updates to Paranoia Press Vanguard Reaches, 1991, Chuck Kallenbach Thomas Jones-Low (31 Aug 2020 15:15 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Complete Starport by J. Andrew Keith Thomas RUX (03 Sep 2020 15:14 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Re: ISO: Updates to Paranoia Press Vanguard Reaches, 1991, Chuck Kallenbach Thomas Jones-Low 31 Aug 2020 15:14 UTC

Mr. Rux

	The full catalog of the Paranoia Press products is available on the Apocrypha
II CD_ROM available from FFE, and are available from DriveThru RPG for an
immediate purchase.

	Unless, of course, you require the physical copies. I recommend Noble Knight
Games, who seems have copies of both books.

On 8/31/2020 10:12 AM, Thomas RUX wrote:
> Hello kaladorn,
>
> I may have a line on copies of Paranoia Press products Vanguard Reaches and
> Beyond unfortunately there appears to be some issues that does not allow me to
> purchase the items.
>
> Tom Rux
>> On 08/30/2020 10:08 PM xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> I missed the note at the bottom, because the reference to it was on the page
>> with charted space and is said 'here' but I couldn't find it and only after it
>> occured to me the 'here' might really have meant 'there' as in 'on the page
>> with the individual sector'.
>>
>> Note if you are browsing Berka's map at Zho Base, the Vanguard Reaches and The
>> Beyond both use the dotmap from DGP 1991 and the data from Galactic which was
>> from Chuck Kallenbach's update (and that data, according to Joshua at the
>> Traveller Map was aimed to be for 1200 for TNE but was meant to be also usable
>> for MT 1120 times (and likely CT times too).
>>
>> So the Traveller Map's 1105 at the moment is the small Paranoia Press booklets
>> and the original planetary layout, whereas Berka's is from after the new dot
>> map was created by DGP.
>>
>> In the long run, maybe someone does CT-era in MgT and papers over the Paranoia
>> Press stuff completely. I think in that case, it ought to have a home
>> somewhere as an ATU.
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 10:30 PM Thomas RUX < xxxxxx@comcast.net
>> <mailto:xxxxxx@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     __
>>     Hello kaladorn,
>>
>>     My apologies for not checking out the other posts before replying.
>>
>>     Tom Rux
>>>     On 08/30/2020 7:26 PM Thomas RUX < xxxxxx@comcast.net
>>>     <mailto:xxxxxx@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Hello kaladorn,
>>>
>>>     I believe that the information on the site, cited below, clearly states
>>>     where the information came from.
>>>
>>>     Vanguard Reaches - Credits
>>>     --------------------------
>>>
>>>     The Vanguard Reaches data are reproduced here with permission of the
>>>     author, Chuck Kallenbach II . Chuck
>>>     expressed the wish that we use the data provided on the Paranoia Press
>>>     homepage rather than what was in the actual sector book (copyright 1981).
>>>     These new data, Chuck feels, cover both MT and TNE and should be valid
>>>     for T4 as well.
>>>
>>>     The text for the Library Data was provided by Chuck at his
>>>     web site and structured and adapted, without modification to the wording,
>>>     for use in GALACTIC.
>>>
>>>     The stories entitled Von Ryan's War and the Loser's Perspective were
>>>     provided by Chuck at the same site and incorporated into the information
>>>     for the Duchy of Trelyn. Von Ryan's War is reproduced by permission of
>>>     the author, Chuck Kallenbach II. The Loser's Perspective is credited to
>>>     Dan Hillen from original ideas by Don Rapp. Proper credits can be found
>>>     at the Paranoia Press homepage.
>>>
>>>     Michel Boucher organized the information
>>>     for use in GALACTIC."
>>>
>>>     Of course there is no way to check the Paranoia Press homepage.
>>>
>>>     Tom Rux
>>>
>>>>     On 08/30/2020 12:07 PM xxxxxx@gmail.com <mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com>
>>>>     wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     That data set does not match the Paranoia Press Vanguard Reaches (and
>>>>     thus I imagine The Beyond sector would also be different). I also doubt
>>>>     it matches later DGP stuff either. I do not know where they got their
>>>>     data from.
>>>>
>>>>     On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 1:51 PM Thomas RUX < xxxxxx@comcast.net
>>>>     <mailto:xxxxxx@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         __
>>>>         Hello kaladorn,
>>>>>         On 08/30/2020 2:34 AM xxxxxx@gmail.com
>>>>>         <mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         Looking in the book for Vanguard Reaches, the base at Totenkopf is
>>>>>         supposed to be a non-IISS/non-Imperial Scout Base and the base at
>>>>>         Langemarck is in fact a non-Imperial Naval Base. I think from
>>>>>         https://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Base_Code they should have types J
>>>>>         for Langemarke and V for Totenkopf.
>>>>         Here is a link to Supplement PO3 Space Atlas
>>>>         https://zhodani.space/data/CLASSIC/
>>>>
>>>>         Checking all of the subsector maps I did not either Totenkopf or
>>>>         Langemarck listed in the subsector write-up.
>>>>
>>>>         Tom Rux
>>>>>         On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 5:29 AM < xxxxxx@gmail.com
>>>>>         <mailto:xxxxxx@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>             Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>             I'm working on some entries for the Traveller Wiki for the
>>>>>             Vanguard Reaches (published for CT by Paranoia Press).
>>>>>
>>>>>             I've been looking at the page for Langemarck itself, one of the
>>>>>             few world pages in the Langemarck Coalition that was already
>>>>>             existent and in the list of sources there is mention of an
>>>>>             online update to the Vanguard Reaches (and possibly other
>>>>>             Paranoia Press material), date identified as 1991, and authored
>>>>>             by Chuck Kallenbach who wrote these supplements I believe.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Where online these existed, unclear. Anyone with a long memory
>>>>>             and a deep repository of past data have a copy of these updates?
>>>>>
>>>>>             I see on the Traveller Wiki that the legend they use marks the
>>>>>             base at Langemark as a Naval Base (non-Imperial) but the code
>>>>>             recorded on the page is a K which
>>>>>             https://wiki.travellerrpg.com/Base_Code appears not to align
>>>>>             with (its not a K'Kree base... I think it should be F or a J)
>>>>>             and the base on the map appears to be noted in the TravellerMap
>>>>>             legend as 'independent base' which seems like it would have
>>>>>             base code F (perhaps a Langemarck Army base?).
>>>>>
>>>>>             As Paranoia Press is out of operation, I doubt any errata will
>>>>>             cover these discrepancies, but if there was some updates to
>>>>>             UWPs etc. in 1991, I never saw this update. If anyone has
>>>>>             whatever Chuck put out in 1991 as an update, I'd love to see
>>>>>             it. If it's on the CD that has the PP stuff, just point me
>>>>>             there as I have the disk somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Tom B
>>>>>
>>>>>             --
>>>>>             “The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal
>>>>>             before the law.” ― Aristotle
>>>>>
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