Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (22 Aug 2020 18:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Thomas RUX (22 Aug 2020 23:52 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (23 Aug 2020 22:24 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (23 Aug 2020 04:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (23 Aug 2020 23:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Aug 2020 00:17 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Phil Pugliese (25 Aug 2020 03:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Thomas Jones-Low (25 Aug 2020 04:16 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Rupert Boleyn (25 Aug 2020 04:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Aug 2020 05:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Kelly St. Clair (25 Aug 2020 07:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Timothy Collinson (25 Aug 2020 09:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Alex Goodwin (25 Aug 2020 15:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Timothy Collinson (25 Aug 2020 15:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Alex Goodwin (25 Aug 2020 15:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Timothy Collinson (25 Aug 2020 15:59 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Postmark (25 Aug 2020 19:25 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (25 Aug 2020 15:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Timothy Collinson (25 Aug 2020 16:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Alex Goodwin (25 Aug 2020 16:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (25 Aug 2020 17:06 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Aug 2020 18:39 UTC)
[TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Kelly St. Clair (26 Aug 2020 05:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Kelly St. Clair (26 Aug 2020 05:28 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Kelly St. Clair (26 Aug 2020 05:36 UTC)
Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (27 Aug 2020 00:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Aug 2020 02:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (28 Aug 2020 03:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Aug 2020 04:19 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) kaladorn@xxxxxx (29 Aug 2020 05:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (29 Aug 2020 18:17 UTC)
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Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts David Johnson (30 Aug 2020 23:07 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Phil Pugliese (30 Aug 2020 23:55 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Rupert Boleyn (31 Aug 2020 00:51 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Kelly St. Clair (30 Aug 2020 20:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts kaladorn@xxxxxx (30 Aug 2020 20:44 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Jeff Zeitlin (30 Aug 2020 21:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Phil Pugliese (30 Aug 2020 21:42 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts David Johnson (30 Aug 2020 22:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Rupert Boleyn (31 Aug 2020 00:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Thomas Jones-Low (30 Aug 2020 20:33 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Jeff Zeitlin (30 Aug 2020 21:12 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Rupert Boleyn (06 Sep 2020 02:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Kenneth Barns (06 Sep 2020 11:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Timothy Collinson (06 Sep 2020 11:40 UTC)
Re: [TML] Balkanization and other Book 3 Gov'ts Jim Catchpole (06 Sep 2020 12:15 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (01 Sep 2020 01:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) Thomas RUX (28 Aug 2020 13:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game (was: UWPs) David Johnson (29 Aug 2020 03:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game Hubert Figuiere (28 Aug 2020 15:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game Phil Pugliese (28 Aug 2020 16:11 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game Timothy Collinson (28 Aug 2020 16:39 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game Jeff Zeitlin (28 Aug 2020 16:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Last Century Game kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Aug 2020 17:43 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs kaladorn@xxxxxx (26 Aug 2020 06:20 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Phil Pugliese (26 Aug 2020 17:21 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Aug 2020 02:45 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) kaladorn@xxxxxx (26 Aug 2020 06:14 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Christopher Sean Hilton (27 Aug 2020 16:26 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Christopher Sean Hilton (27 Aug 2020 16:37 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) kaladorn@xxxxxx (27 Aug 2020 17:03 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) David Johnson (28 Aug 2020 03:10 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Timothy Collinson (28 Aug 2020 10:30 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Thomas Jones-Low (28 Aug 2020 12:18 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Christopher Sean Hilton (28 Aug 2020 15:46 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs kaladorn@xxxxxx (28 Aug 2020 16:19 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs Timothy Collinson (28 Aug 2020 16:50 UTC)
When RPG's become CRPG's... Phil Pugliese (28 Aug 2020 22:05 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Thomas RUX (29 Aug 2020 23:02 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Thomas RUX (29 Aug 2020 23:08 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Phil Pugliese (30 Aug 2020 00:01 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Thomas RUX (30 Aug 2020 02:53 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Phil Pugliese (29 Aug 2020 23:09 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Hubert Figuiere (30 Aug 2020 00:31 UTC)
Re: [TML] When RPG's become CRPG's... Thomas RUX (30 Aug 2020 02:56 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) David Johnson (29 Aug 2020 03:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) kaladorn@xxxxxx (29 Aug 2020 05:08 UTC)
Sig file (was: UWPs) David Johnson (30 Aug 2020 03:00 UTC)
Re: [TML] Sig file (was: UWPs) kaladorn@xxxxxx (30 Aug 2020 04:04 UTC)
Re: [TML] UWPs (was: Alternate Starport Codes) Timothy Collinson (31 Aug 2020 10:13 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes kaladorn@xxxxxx (25 Aug 2020 05:50 UTC)
Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin (25 Aug 2020 11:02 UTC)

Re: [TML] Alternate Starport Codes Jeff Zeitlin 25 Aug 2020 11:02 UTC

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 20:17:22 -0400, xxxxxx@gmail.com wrote:

>So are cases that would be covered be:
>
>- No Starport, No Spaceports
>- No Starport, Only Spaceports
>- Starport (1), No Spaceports
>- Starport (1), Spaceports
>- Starport and Secondary Starports, Spaceports

>(I have omitted Starport and Secondary Starports, No Spaceports only
>because any place that has that much Starport Traffic surely must have
>Spaceports....).

>When you say 'handles interstellar traffic', given a 100 ton ship can be a
>system ship or an interstellar ship, really means 'handles the
>legal/customs/immigration/health stuff that would not be as present on a
>spaceport' normally. Does that sound right?

Pretty much. Spaceports also probably _can't_ handle the larger starships,
physically; it'd be like trying to land a 747, DC-10, or L-1011 at a
smaller airport like HPN or ISP in the New York area - JFK, LGA, EWR, and
SWF would be "starports" to HPN and ISP's "spaceports". Either of the
latter _can_, if needed, handle international flights by smaller planes
(DC-9/MD-80 or smaller), by having the airport authorities call ICE and
explaining the situation (upon which CIS will send a team out to handle
their responsibilities), but they don't normally do so. (That is, I don't
believe that either HPN or ISP are designated as Airports of Entry, and
thus do not have ICE stationed on-airport. If either _is_ designated AoE,
they become "starports" that simply can't handle larger starships.)

>I figured that. And I agree with you re segregating port/yard facilities.
>Ports should strictly be the processing and movement of people and goods.
>Yards should be a different beast.

...and the distinction between "repair yard" and "construction yard" is
also a necessary one - any starport should probably have a minimal repair
yard associated with it, but construction facilities are a whole 'nother
beast, as would be a repair yard that can handle major repairs. (example:
If you land a plane at JFK and say "Gee, that left elevator is sticking,
and the right flap seems a little slow on extension", they should be able
to handle that without sending the plane elsewhere. Get a situation like
that Hawaiian Airlines plane that lost a chunk of fuselage, you're _not_
repairing that at the airport...)

>I also think yards maybe ought to have a maximum tonnage limit as well as a
>tech level limit for repairs and construction.

Absolutely, and I sorta stabbed at that in the article I referenced at the
beginning of the thread.

FWIW, I've been drawing analogies between airports and starports; that's
because airports are going to be more familiar generally. I suspect,
however, that analogies with _seaports_ might be closer...

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